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It's funny to trace rhetoric back a few years before the Russia-Ukraine war, when there was so much Internet and social media hype over Russia as a superpower, their military overtaking America:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Russia%20military%20US%20before%3A2020
Then suddenly there's the invasion, and suddenly it's revealed that the hype was all fake, Russia was bluffing on its military, they are mostly poorly trained, with ridiculously outdated equipment.
And suddenly tons of internet media commentators do a massive 180, and there's so much rhetoric about how being a global superpower is bad.
Is being a global superpower bad, or do people say it's bad just because Russia isn't one after all?
It’s bad. It would be bad also if Russia were the sole global hegemon and the imperial power that controls the whole world, but it isn’t and also never has been. What a bizarre thought process you have that you think Americans who live in America and have to put up with its bullshit all day are getting their talking points from a country they don’t live in and have nothing to fucking do with. What a deranged conspiracy theory.
I'm gonna blow your mind, Grandpa. Americans consume more internet media than social media.
Your see there's this thing call Facebook
And Facebook is an American company and spending on advertisements by American entities dwarf that of any other country, so what’s your point?
America is not a nationalist country, and it's not even particularly anti-Russia. American companies are busy making money selling their products.
And capitalism online created the ingeniously evil thing known as targeted advertising. Instead of generically hammering the entire population with propaganda, you target specific groups with specific techniques.
Incels? Blame women's rights in America. Russia is more traditional and women know their place.
Neo-Nazis? Blame the gays. The West is becoming effeminate. Russians are real men.
Tankies? It's US capitalism and imperialism. Not like Russia, it's going to bring back the communist Soviet Union.
I died. I’m dead after reading that america isn’t nationalist or anti-Russia. Lol. Lmao even.
It's not, politicians overwhelmingly don't use nationalist or anti-Russia rhetoric because it doesn't get them elected. Vivek is going hard nationalist, and he's what, 9% support among Republicans?
There's a few hyper-nationalists in the Republican party, but it's the tiny minority, and everyone else in America just uses them for entertainment.
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So who is leading the republican primary? Somebody without a nationalist bone in their body I’m sure. Definitely not an “America First” “Build the Wall” “Make America Great Again” type of candidate.
Trump moonlights as a nationalist but in reality he's a globalist businessman who is friendly towards Russia and China. Sure, he says build the wall, but he hired immigrants at his properties.
Trump did lean in heavy to the nationalist rhetoric in 2016, and where did that get him? One term, twice lost popular vote, twice impeached, and what should have been a red wave midterm in 2022 turned into a red fart. Edit: not to mention currently drowning in legal issues and hemorrhaging money on lawyers
Most Americans don't want nationalism.