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I mean that feels unnecessary. This is a person who is clearly very upset and seems to be having a tough time at the minute. maybe it's not helpful for people to pile on.
I have to disagree. The man's issue is that he refuses to relinquish this position that he's clearly not qualified for or deserving of. He doesn't get to be upset at the scrutiny when he has never had to play by the same rules as any of the other nineteen drivers on the grid. Furthermore, his mechanics have had an entire season of putting up with his nonsense, whilst the other half of the garage have had to work less and celebrate more.
It's a shit situation for Lance. I don't like to see another human being hurting. The solution, however, is to be grateful for the years in Formula One he's had, and go have a no-doubt successful career in Endurance, DTM, IndyCar, GT racing or Formula E.
I think it is fair to be critical of his performance and even to state that one doesn't think that he is performing at a level necessary for F1 however 'Poor baby' as a reaction to his understandable reaction to not qualifying where he knows the car can qualify is an unnecessary personal attack.
I mean, play stupid games win stupid prizes? If you're not adult enough to be able to express your frustration in a way that doesn't harm those around you, you open yourself up to accusations of being a baby.
Most of these drivers arent adult enough for anything. Much like teen actors they have been brought up through a very weird youth, surrounded by people who would manage everything for them, and never finished school. Look at Leclerc's emotional outbursts, or Russell's confrontation with Bottas, or Max and Esteban...
Expect people to always react well to situations and you will often be disappointed. He didn't react well, but having a modicum of understanding and acceptance of someone's humanity and fallibility seems like a fair expectation.
I'd be more willing to extend sympathy and understanding to Lance, if we'd ever seen any of that from him to his fellow professionals. How'd he appreciate his teammates humanity when he fucked-over his teammates in Formula 3? Where was his sympathy when he cost Ocon his seat? The seat he earned on-merit thanks to his family selling their home to fund his career?
How are you so sure that stroll did not offer his sympathies to ocon in private. Considering Ocon has remained stroll's closest friend amongst the drivers(and vice versa) even after stroll fucked him over, it is clear that at a personal level stroll did offer his sympathies in some way.
There are plenty of reasons to dislike stroll but being outraged on behalf of Ocon when ocon himself does not have any problems with stroll is stupid.
I'm unaware of what happened in F3 - could you clarify for me?