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submitted 11 months ago by sik0fewl@kbin.social to c/canada@lemmy.ca

Indigenous icon Buffy Sainte-Marie's identity was brought into question by a CBC investigation, her Piapot family says the accusations are "ignorant, colonial -- and racist."

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[-] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

I'm not even disagreeing with you tbh.
My initial comment was poorly worded, I'm just tired of the fourth estate pulling their punches when it comes to bigger issues.

The world's going to shit because we let megacorps and rich fucks steal from the people.
This story is more than a distraction, but it's also a distraction.
While we argue about whose blood should have been worthy to receive whatever grant money scraps, we're not paying attention to the class war that robs infinitely more wealth from every community.

On this story? Her tribe claims her as their own.
She should probably give money back to support other indigenous artists if she's not doing that already.

[-] jadero@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

I guess were in at least partial agreement. I do think that this story would have been better if the class warfare had been more explicitly called out. As it stands, it's about one person's bad behaviour, leave the class struggle as a secondary character.

[-] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago

The things that's unclear to me still is if she even knew about it from early on.
Like... I know where I was born but only from what I've been told, as I have no memory of that time.
Reality could be much different than my understanding of it.

From what I understand, she was still raised by indigenousparents from that tribe, she still grew up on a reserve with most of the difficulties associated with it. She's been an activist of indigenous issues for longer than most people on lemmy have been alive.
She still grew up in her tribe's culture and as such I think her art is still representative of indigenous roots. If anything, it highlights that the hardships of indigenous people aren't coming from their blood, which would be racist nonsense, but from the shitty position the rest of our society puts them in.

I understand how an actual indigenous artist might be angry in some sort of lost opportunitykind of way, but I also understand that her family must feel really fucking insulted.

What's the next step? Requiring DNA testing before giving grants money to indigenous artist doesn't seem like a positive to me and I'm fine with indigenous people doing their own gatekeeping into who's one of theirs instead of some bureaucrat somewhere.

Supporting more indigenous artists shouldn't require burning down what she's done.

[-] DavidM_yeg@mstdn.ca 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

@InEnduringGrowStrong @jadero

I’m sorry but a lot of what you just wrote is contradicted by facts in the reporting… Buffy did *not* grow up on a reserve or in her ‘her tribe’s culture’, she grew up as a white girl in new england, and claims of indigenous origin didn’t appear until the 60s along with her growing musical career.

How to respond to or interpret those facts is up to the communities affected.

[-] jadero@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

How to respond to or interpret those facts is up to the communities affected.

Well put!

[-] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks, I didn't take the time to get all the info regarding her upbringing, so thanks for correcting me.

How to respond to or interpret those facts is up to the communities affected.

True. As a white dude I don't think my opinion is of any value on the subject. Seeing as her tribe doesn't seem to care, I'd tend to agree with them.

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