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All the ingredients are there and it won't take much to put it all together.

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[-] drahardja@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The armaments held by private citizens are laughable in the face of the weapons in the Military.

Any “civil war” in the US would likely be in the form of constant terrorism, not all-out gunfights.

[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

Once the government actually starts cracking down on the domestic terrorists, they have no chance. With all the surveillance they've been doing since 9/11 they're bound to know exactly who to arrest.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Case in point, in only a few years they’ve prosecuted hundreds of people who broke into the Capitol building. They can certainly find you.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago

They still haven't found the guy that was leaving pipe bombs around on 1/6 have they? I hear what you're saying, but most capitol rioters got caught because they were fucking idiots.

[-] idiomaddict@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

I think that level of idiocy would still hold true for the people who start a civil war.

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, dumbasses would be live streaming placing their IEDs

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The exception doesn’t disprove the rule

[-] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

The small flat blade screwdriver in the front pocket of a mechanic is the most terrifying weapon on the planet.

[-] ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I'd never sully my pocket prybar like that. I have a 24" adjustable wrench that is perfect for swinging.

[-] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I will swap the pins on your fuel pump connector while you sleep.

[-] ArumiOrnaught@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Plz no. There is no alldata for the vehicles I work on :(

[-] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

sticks pebble in your valve stem cap

[-] Brawndo@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

If there was a true civil war the military would probably be divided with some on one side and some on the other but I really doubt there will be a civil war any time in the near future.

[-] nomecks@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

What makes you think the armed forces won't split in a civil war?

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Chain of command.

The military is very good about making sure that the people that participate in it adhere to the rules they are given.

People that step out of line will be dealt with abruptly and brutally. I'm not saying there won't be dissension in the ranks, but I am saying that the number of military people that will split with their command structure is going to be minuscule and easily dealt with.

[-] nomecks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I disagree. That's all well and good when it's a common enemy, but when you're ordered to attack your family and friends who live in NY, that's a different ball game.

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The military allows you to disobey orders that you find unconscionable.

That's part of our whole don't commit war crimes thing

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But you do realize they're going to shoot you. If they're actually ordering illegal things they're going to shoot people who don't obey the orders too. That's a hard decision for a teenager to make.

No it doesn't. It requires you to disobey orders that are unlawful.

[-] ReCursing@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You just need a couple of generals to say "no my orders are legitimate, theirs aren't, mine come for the real president!" and you have a problem. And all that takes it a little bit of blackmail and bribery or a couple of high ranking useful idiots or psychopathic grifters

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Theoretically yes. But if you want to know the climate of senior officers you need look no further than the Joint Chiefs actually yelling at Trump in his office and disseminating memos on exactly what the military oath says. (Loyalty to the Constitution)

They aren't likely to turn anytime soon.

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

I don't know much about such things but I wonder whether it's possible in any meaningful way.

If there's a split they don't just divvy up the toys and have at it.

One side might have a few things on wheels and tracks, but can they call in an air strike? Will they even have GPS?

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