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Analysts have warned Windows 10 end of life plans could spark a global torrent of e-waste, with millions of devices expected to be scrapped in the coming years. 

Research from Canalys shows that up to 240 million PCs globally could be terminated as a result of the shift over to Windows 11, raising critical questions about device refreshes and the responsibility of vendors to extend life cycles.

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[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 34 points 9 months ago

People are mad at MS for being MS. MS isn't great, Windows is flawed, and there should be better alternatives. People would be quick to move to Linux if it worked for them. Most desktops now are for gaming. Most gamers have Nvidia. Linux famously has issues with Nvidia because 90% of the distros out there decided to jump on to Wayland before it was even half done. If that's the state of Linux where my 8-year-old Windows 10 machine still gets updates regularly and runs fine. Windows 10 will actively prevent you from trying to upgrade and bricking your system whereas Linux is absolutely like "Go ahead, hope you read all the patch notes for the 1000s different updates you are about to get!" Most people will go with Windows because Linux doesn't work for them.

Overall Linux has the power to be good, it just doesn't have the community will power to do so.

[-] SciPiTie@iusearchlinux.fyi 28 points 9 months ago

How the narrative has turned Nvidias active sabotage into Linux maintainers fault is beyond me.

Latest for their reluctance to act on scalpers it should be transparent what you're getting into with Nvidia.

And then people like you write thing like this... Why?!

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 9 points 9 months ago

Nvidia works fine on X11. You might say it's Nvidia's fault for not supporting Wayland more or not having open drivers but the truth is, it doesn't truly matter. What matters is the end result.

[-] navigatron@beehaw.org 13 points 9 months ago

Wanna come configure optimus for me?

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago
[-] psudo@beehaw.org 10 points 9 months ago

I think the disconnect here is that others are saying "they aren't supporting us," and your response is pretty much "lol, abandon what you're doing and go back to the corporations." A totally fair take, but how you're delivering it comes across as missing their point.

Also "it works on windows" is a terrible rebuttal in a discussion where you first say "it works fine on x11"

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

I think the disconnect here is that others are saying “they aren’t supporting us,” and your response is pretty much “lol, abandon what you’re doing and go back to the corporations.”

My point is that Linux does nothing to make it easy to support. Nvidia even has made an open source kernel driver. https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules Nvidia is doing a lot of work to support Linux and people don't seem to see it.

Also “it works on windows” is a terrible rebuttal in a discussion where you first say “it works fine on x11”

A question to configure Nvidia Optimus is also a terrible rebuttal in the first place. Optimus is blocked because Linux kernel doesn't want proprietary blobs. AMD has the same exact issue.

[-] Tau@sopuli.xyz 4 points 9 months ago

The problem is that nvidia's drivers are shit but we couldn't do anything because for the longest time, for nvidia cards to work at a decent speed, it requires the drivers to be signed by nvidia.

We couldn't do anything and you are blaming us for that.

Now that this, AFAIK, has been lifted new things like NVK are emerging.

The problem has been reluctance abd uncooperativeness from nvidia, not the linux community

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

I'm not blaming any Linux users for that. I'm saying this is the trade-offs of Linux and they are unacceptable to most people.

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

So really a moot point, isn't it?

[-] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

on my nvidia linux laptop it works perfectly, thank you very much. (if you actually need help I can)

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