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[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

I think this is misrepresenting what he said. His stance is basically that he felt like they were punishing honest workers and business partners, people who never lied or cheated or hurt anyone, for something that they had no part in due to public pressure. He’s not wrong either unless people have some kind of explanation for how a cosmetics manufacturer is supposed to stop Putin from murdering innocent Ukrainians fighting against his pointless war and innocent Russians who don’t want to fight for him.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 13 points 1 year ago

A cosmetics manufacturer alone? No.

All western companies leaving however can make an economic hit that will benefit Ukraine.

As for the Russians? They can revolt or do something, otherwise they suffer. Who cares about them.

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

So all the western companies that did leave at the start of the war… what effect has that had? The war still continues, Russia took over copyrights and trademarks to continue global brands going internally, and Putin is still President.

When is this economic hit supposed to happen and when will its effects cause this change everyone is claiming? It’s nearly 2024 and these companies left in March of 2022.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 21 points 1 year ago

Russias economy is the effect it had, or do you think Russia today is in as good a state as before the sanctions?

You seem to expect an overnight collapse of society? The world doesn’t work that easily.

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Russia’s GDP increased by 3.1% this year compared to last. The sanctions you mention did far more than western companies pulling their business from the country.

I’m not expecting an overnight collapse. I’m expecting quantifiable effects, such as those from the sanctions from other countries and the EU, that are actually measurable after 2 years.

I guess that makes me an asshole, though.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 13 points 1 year ago

GDP is not an indicator of a healthy economy.

Likewise every action that hurts Russia is beneficial even if you personally can’t see the effects of it.

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

I just don’t see how it hurts Russia as a nation. I only see it hurting Russians who have nothing to do with the state’s actions.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 5 points 1 year ago

Russians have everything to do with their states actions.

In fact they have more to do with it than anyone else on the planet as it is their responsibility

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Again, this assumes Russia’s elections are run freely and fairly which we know is not the case.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 1 year ago

Why would it assume that?

Revolt or die, idc.

[-] Woht24@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You're a little flog sitting in your western first world nation home that mum and dad likely own and you're judging people on the other side of the world living under a dictatorship.

Absolutely no fucking idea.

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