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submitted 9 months ago by sjmarf@sh.itjust.works to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev

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[-] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 73 points 9 months ago

If you can make safe Rust segfault you're doing something wrong.

[+] sxan@midwest.social -15 points 9 months ago

IME Rust programs crash at about the same rate as other languages. "Rewrite everything in Rust" hasn't made much of a difference for me, so far.

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 9 points 9 months ago

Rust programmers vastly overestimate how many bugs are caused by memory problems

[-] technom@programming.dev 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's misinformation. There's no overestimation. The problem is so bad that even the US government advocates the use of memory safe languages (including GC languages).

I have used C and C++. You need laser sharp focus to avoid memory safety errors even after you learn what causes them and how to avoid them. It's significantly easier to write programs in Rust because any lapse in care to avoid memory safety bugs are caught by the compiler.

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run -1 points 9 months ago

What I mean is that even if you use GC languages like Java or Go you will still encounter annoying bugs. I’m not saying that memory safety isn’t important.

[-] technom@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

You said bugs caused by 'memory problems'. And that Rust programmers vastly overestimate them. Those aren't generic logical bugs that you get in Go or Java. And Rust never claimed to solve logical bugs.