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[-] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Us going offline as in we cant view meta and they cant view us? That seems like a fine outcome

[-] Hellebert@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The problem is human nature. Content, activity and funding for development will drop off very hard and it'll likely become like XMPP is today, aka bloated, a mess of standards and basically forgotten about.

Meta just want to suck all they can out of a promising technology and it isn't their first trip at the rodeo. See Occulus as well. People are right to want to keep Meta at arms length.

[-] u_tamtam@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't spread FUD about XMPP, please ๐Ÿ™‚. It works wonder, it's in fact everything I've ever wanted for personal/family chats and large IRC chatrooms alike. It also happens to be one of the easiest things I ever had to self-host thanks to how wonderful and batteries included ejabberd is. I have developed several clients and bots/integrations in several languages thanks to how versatile it is.

Fun fact, it has a PubSub component which is (IMO) technically superior to the fediverse more lightweight and more flexible.

If one thing, the great XMPP rediscovery is overdue if you ask me ๐Ÿ˜‰

[-] brahmsss@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I ask, please expand or provide some entry points for the XMPP for a complete newbie on the subject if you'd be so kind, please and thank you

[-] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

No problem, what do you want to know? If you are here, it means that you already understand how federation works, i.e. you need to find a service provider/server on which to create your account, there are several sites to help you with that:

then you'll end-up with a username like nick@server.tld and the password of your chosing, just like email, just like mastodon/lemmy. You will then log into using a client of your choice, and here as well you have plenty of choice: https://xmpp.org/getting-started/

If you are more of a power-user, I recommend Gajim, if you are on Android, Conversations/Cheogram are safe choices, if you are on i/macOS, siskin/beagleIM are decent, etc

[-] brahmsss@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

thanks, I'll def check it out, sounds different

[-] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Really it isn't in practice ๐Ÿ˜‰. And if you want to have a taste of it, are using Android, and want to skip the decision making steps for an onboarding experience like WhatsApp (where a central service discovers your contacts using your phone number), you could just install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=im.quicksy.client

There are all kinds of options out there ๐Ÿ™‚

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