171
submitted 6 months ago by tkk13909@sopuli.xyz to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Does having an AirBNB setup make someone deserving of the guillotine or does that only apply to owners of multiple houses? What about apartments?

Please explain your reasoning as well.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 130 points 6 months ago

Landlords aren't inherently evil - it's a useful job... a good landlord will make sure that units are well maintained and appliances are functional. A good landlord is also a property manager.

Landlords get a bad name because passive income is a bullshit lie. If you're earning "passive income" you're stealing someone else's income - there's no such thing as money for nothing, if you're getting money and doing nothing it's because someone else isn't being properly paid for their work.

[-] kakes@sh.itjust.works 42 points 6 months ago

Another thing that pisses me off is that I'm literally paying >100% of the cost of the property over time, yet they retain full ownership. It's an investment with essentially zero risk, if you have a tenant that isn't a racoon.

Not sure I have a good solution for that issue, honestly, but the idea of it irks me.

My overall position boils down to: Housing should never generate profit. A landlord can take pay for the work they do, and put money aside for maintenance, but there should never be a profit made on rent.

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

there absolutely should be a profit for rent. Being a good landlord is work, work should be compensated. Taking the risk of ownership (low though it might be) should be compensated.

The issue isn't profit. The issue is a) artificial lack of supply driving up prices b) greed and exploitation of basic needs.

In some countries, like some of the USA, you get clean drinking water pumped into your house for your toilets. However you do the math a) people need to work on the system to keep it working and they should get paid a living wage b) water is a need even more than housing. We pay for water, and people make profit on it. How you pay for it - taxes, city rates, privately - whatever, you pay for it.

that isn't the issue, just like paying rent isn't the issue. it's the amount which is.

the solution is simple and already exists: universal basic income, and make basic needs like water and rent limited by this amount.

[-] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

Tap water is not really a for-profit enterprise. Even Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, though there are some well paid lawyers and engineers on staff, has to justify their rates and re-invest it all into water supply reliability. No shareholders making a profit on tap water.

UBI would not prevent landlords from profit. If we can afford to spend trillions on concrete bridges, we could build public housing in every city.

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

"shareholders" have nothing to do with any part of this conversation.

UBI has nothing to do with preventing profit. Which is good, because we shouldn't be preventing profit. We should be preventing exploitation.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (14 replies)
load more comments (44 replies)
this post was submitted on 01 Apr 2024
171 points (82.0% liked)

Asklemmy

43645 readers
1176 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy ๐Ÿ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS