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Attacks on Ukraine's nuclear plant put world at risk, IAEA warns
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I think you read that the wrong way 'round. It makes sense to me, in the context of being against the stupid Russians.
What exactly did I read the wrong way 'round?
Because Russia deliberately attack the power plant, that is an attack on the world. It seems to me that you read it as if Ukraine did this attack?
I did not read that "Ukraine did this attack", as a matter of fact article does not say who attacked it, because they "lack evidence".
It's just the only way I see how one can believe that the attack was done by Russia, is a conspiracy theory that Russia attacks its own territory.
On the other one, Ukraine attacking it is perfectly logical because they are attacking a territory of their enemy that they do not control.
Do you understand that Ukraine does not see the south of its own country as "enemy territory"?
So, are you saying that Ukraine is not bombing the territories occupied by Russia?
And how do you define an "enemy territory"? Because from my definition of "enemy territory", any territory occupied by your enemy, territory on which it resides and controls is "enemy territory"...
No, I'm saying they are very unlikely to want a second nuclear disaster on the land they want to control.
Your definition is your own and not a very useful one, because by your definition any territory lost is immediately your enemies' territory now and you become the aggressor for trying to regain your own land. Do you think Ukraine are the aggressors?
And Russia does? They also want to (and in fact do, and are more likely to keep it so) control that land.
Indeed. You can share yours and we can discuss it as well.
Well, yes, this is how it works. Territory belongs to whoever controls it. Ukraine can claim it owns Crimea, Donbas and even Moscow itself, but what does it matter if Russia controls it? It's Russia's territory now regardless of what Ukraine and/or international law say. And to take it back they will need to conduct military actions on that territory (which belongs to enemy now, and therefore is "enemy territory"), including bombing it, conducting drone strikes (wherever they deem necessary, including nuclear power plants), etc.
Whose territory is Falkand Islands, Argentina or UK? Whose territory is mainland China, ROC or PRC? Whose territory is Taiwan, PRC or ROC? Whose territory is Northern Cyprus, Republic of Cyprus or Turkey? Depending on your political views you may have different answers to those questions, but in the reality they are controlled by the latter countries, so it is their territory, regardless of what you think. The same situation with south of Ukraine. It of course works the other way around as well, Russia claims that all of the Zaporizhzhia Oblast is theirs, which is not true because they do not control all of it.
No.
And anyway, "whose territory it is" is a bikeshedding that does not matter.
What matters are facts - and the facts are that Russia controls the territory that the strike was conducted on. Are you disputing that?
And saying that Russia attacked a territory that it controls, without backing up those claims is a conspiracy theory, don't you think?
It's simple. Ukraine is fighting to get their home land back. They are smart and will not destroy the power plant. This is undeniable fact.
On the other hand, Russia is driven by a power hungry maniac, and they have shelled the plant before. They also had their troops dig trenches in the irradiated soil - poor sods will all die from cancer, if not from acute lead poisoning. This is also undeniable fact.
If we agree on this, let's have a discussion. If not, I will consider you an unusually eloquent but still Russian troll and block you for wasting my time.
This is not a fact, this is an opinion.
Feel free to block me now :)