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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Lashes Out at 'Predatory' Jill Stein
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Agreed. The Green Party sits on their ass until presidential election. They haven’t moved the needle. Best case scenario, they’ve convinced a few non-voters to participate. Worst case, they’re dishonest opportunists.
This angle also needs to be considered). She’s not running in good faith. She’s essentially functioning as a 5th column to pull away voters who would otherwise vote for Harris.
I’m not saying Harris shouldn’t be pushed on environmental issues. I am saying that trying to do that by voting for Stein is actively harmful to the goal of not letting the fascists win this election.
More importantly, if you are voting for her because of the environment, voting for stein is actually harmful to that goal because it helps trump win, which means instead of making baby steps in the right direction, we'll run full steam in the wrong direction.
The Dems aren't making baby steps in the right direction, though, look up the progression of natural gas exports under Joe Biden. They're actively making big steps in the wrong direction.
One metric is the only thing you go by? Do you really think that climate change is driven solely by how much natural gas we export?
Ok, can you please give me other metrics? How many nuclear plants have been built? How much has been invested into new rail infrastructure, whether for freight or for passengers? Have there been any new tariffs on the import of electric vehicles? Any regulation against single family housing, against car dependency, or against meat consumption?
Please, what metrics have improved, other than renewables being installed (at a much lower rate than in many countries)?
You do realize that Stein is against nuclear power and the Green Party constantly fear mongers against it?
https://www.wri.org/insights/biden-administration-tracking-climate-action-progress
There... are no metrics in the link you sent me... There's "plans to reduce emissions by X year", but no mention to progress so far. There's "investment into carbon capture and sequestration" (famously known to not work) but no metric. There's "a pause in the approvals for new natural gas projects" (but the ones approved keep opening up)...
Have you even read what you sent me?
We either get this, or we get full steam the other way. I'm not blown away by what he has done, but arguing that he is going in the wrong direction just doesn't align with the facts.
So no metrics by which things are improving, gotcha.
If passing the largest climate legislation in us history is a non metric, yes you do got me.
Ok, give me some metrics that explain why this is the most effective climate legislation please, other than Biden claiming so
When a poster blatantly misrepresents what I've said, I view that as them just admitting they realize I'm right.
lol you act like I didn't just link you the analysis of some third party.
I asked for metrics, you're bringing words, do you see the problem?