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[-] frezik@midwest.social 112 points 1 year ago

Would it be so bad if games didn't have insane budgets? Most of my favorite games from the past decade are from small studios operating on pizza and hope.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 year ago

BG3 did have a pretty huge budget though. I would totally be fine if games took notes from BG3 but reduced scope a lot. Bioware used to make games similar to BG, but they stopped and now make garbage. The idea other studios can't make similar games is wrong. They can't make games this big usually though without publishers telling them they need to include microtransactions and other bullshit.

[-] avapa@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 year ago

BioWare didn’t just make games similar to Baldur’s Gate, they created Baldur’s Gate.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Yep, you're right. I didn't realize they were a studio at that point. Yeah, they have no reason to complain about new expectations. They could have created BG3 if they had kept doing what they were known for, but EA and the money were too good...

[-] NoMoreCocaine@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wasn't that Black Isle? Or had they already evolved into their future downfall? It's been a hot minute since I've last looked at BG credits.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Black Isle was the publisher, Bioware developed the game. Baldurs Gate lead to BG2, which lead to Neverwinter Nights, which lead to Knights of the Old Republic.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

which lead to Knights of the Old Republic

Which lead to Mass Effect, don't forget

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

True, but IMO the link wasn't nearly as strong between KotoR and ME as any of the previous games in the link which were all clearly D&D based systems. ME1 had a lot in common with KotoR but there were some major deviations too as they moved away from the table top standard.

TIL Baldurs gate is the reason i hated the ending to ME3.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kind of! Though if we are being entirely honest, the real thing to blame is the head writer being replaced and the dev time cut by almost a year.

Personally would have enjoyed it more if they went with the Biotics/Dark Energy that Drew Karpyshyn had put down groundwork for, rather than the AI subplot that Mac Walters hastily slapped together for ME3 that directly contradicted ME1 threads and subplots.

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