Ukraine lacks soldiers to stop Russia (elpais.com)

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

The question is whom it's been more costly for, the west or Russia.

[-] Linktank@lemmy.today -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well lets see, 0 deaths for the west, minor investment compared to running an actual war...

As of October 2024, the estimated number of Russian deaths and costs in Ukraine are:

Russian deaths

The U.S. estimates that Russia has suffered 115,000 deaths and 500,000 injuries in the war.

Western intelligence estimates vary, but some say the number of dead could be as high as 200,000.

Russian costs

Russia's losses in Ukraine are greater than all of its casualties since World War II combined. The war has also set back Russia's military modernization efforts by nearly two decades.

Ukrainian deaths

A U.S. official estimates that Ukraine has suffered more than 57,500 deaths and 250,000 injuries. However, Ukraine rarely comments on the scale of its battlefield deaths.

Armored vehicle losses

Russia has lost more than 8,000 armored vehicles, including 2,700 tanks. Ukraine has lost nearly 3,000 armored vehicles, including 740 tanks.

Recruitment

Russia has relaxed recruitment standards to allow older civilians and convicts to fight.

Estimates vary widely due to a number of factors, including Ukraine's reluctance to disclose its losses and the fact that U.S. intelligence analysts have focused more on Russia's casualties.

Ukraine is not in the west. So... If it's Russia Vs. West, they're losing really badly.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well lets see, 0 deaths for the west, minor investment compared to running an actual war…

Many thousands of western mercenaries have died in Ukraine last I checked, and European economies are in a tailspin right now. IMF just cut the forecast for Germany again https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/imf-cuts-forecasts-german-economy-this-year-next-2024-10-22/

Meanwhile, Russian economy is growing faster than ever, and the World Bank has now reclassified Russia as a high income country as well https://www.worldbank.org/en/about/leadership/directors/eds23/brief/russia-was-classified-as-high-income-country

The U.S. estimates that Russia has suffered 115,000 deaths and 500,000 injuries in the war.

Anybody who accepts these numbers uncritically is incredibly gullible. The only western numbers that had any actual methodology came from mediazona which managed to account for something like 40k casualties. Given that Russia has a population of 144 million, I'll let you do the math on that.

Russia’s losses in Ukraine are greater than all of its casualties since World War II combined. The war has also set back Russia’s military modernization efforts by nearly two decades.

😂

Russia has lost more than 8,000 armored vehicles, including 2,700 tanks. Ukraine has lost nearly 3,000 armored vehicles, including 740 tanks.

😂

I love how you just guzzle propaganda completely uncritically. If Russia lost that many vehicles then the war would've been over a long time ago. Nobody with even a minimally functioning brain could believe this.