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submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Jebus, stop trying to find a single group to blame, it's the entire god damn American public that's at fault.

White, Latino, Blacks, Asians, men, women, Catholics, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, Republicans, Democrats, progressives, everyone in America knew who Trump and Republicans are and screwed the pooch and the entirety of America.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 41 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The grossest thing about the racist recriminations over Harris' loss is that the racial group that makes up 70% of the electorate and the vast majority of Trump voters is somehow blameless, clean, and without blemish.

It seems like every minority is only as good as their latest contribution to the movement, while white liberals are always welcome to flow in and out every election cycle like a goddamn tide.

Conservatives have mocked us for decades with terms like bleeding heart and woke because they see us betraying those values at the fist sign of trouble. And they're right.

[-] woop_woop@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago

That's not what those terms mean or why they are used as insults.

And, generally speaking, a few ethnic/gender groups changed their voting strategies this election, while others didn't. The articles calling out different demographics are pointing out reality. Those shifts affected the results of the election.

That's why they are being pointed out, instead of pointing out that one group did exactly what was expected of them and what they did last time, and the time before, and the time before...

So I'd challenge you that it's not recriminations or gross, it's simply pointing out what changed and how it led to us being in our current spot. You can't fix things/change course without understanding where you are.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee -1 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, it's true that analyzing who voted for who is a legitimate thing to do. At the same time, we must keep in mind that Democrats were looking for people to blame several months before the election and they're certainly still looking for people to blame now. If you're writing an article and you just ignore this broader context, you deserve to be ridiculed online.

I think what we've seen since 2016 is that the DNC has little interest in representing the interests of the average working American. They just don't want to push policies that Bernie Sanders would push, and they're desperate to argue that they can be successful without doing so. In other words, the DNC is pro-corporate America, which is anti-working America, and they won't change unless they're forced out.

[-] woop_woop@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

I don't think "blame" is the right word here. They're/we're looking for reasons for how things ended up the way they did.

IMO it's unhelpful at best and harmful at worst to look at the data and the people analyzing it and approach it as a blame thing - or even to assume it's a finger pointing game. The facts are that the voting strategies of certain groups of people changed this election. The important thing moving forward is to understand who changed and why they changed, because then those things can be addressed.

And yeah, DNC leadership is either dumb or actively malicious because they keep pushing failed ideas under a false banner.

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