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I get why people like him, but some of y'all need to get your heads on straight and understand the gravity of the situation. Murder shouldn't be given a free pass if the target was unpopular enough. You can both appreciate him and also recognize that it's reasonable to hold him in jail at the same time. Society isn't, and shouldn't be treated as, a one dimensional thing.
Imagine if someone was living in a dictatorship. The dictator was passing laws and policies leading to thousands dying yearly. They were embezzling funds from the country and stealing money from citizens, putting them in debt and leading to all the consequences that would entail. They increased the prices of essential goods like medicine in order to skim off the top. They never directly killed anyone, all of the pain and suffering and death they caused was due to policies that technically seperated them from the outcome, being enforced by courts, banks, police, hospitals, and prisons. And they also never broke any laws. Sure people died, or were forced into debt causing them to lose their homes, but all of that was allowed since they helped make the laws.
You've heard stories of other distant countries which don't have these problems, but your country spends a considerable amount of time and money to convince you that those other governments are worse or impossible. Even so, the people tried voting this dictator out, but they rigged the elections so that no matter the outcome they still kept power. Some tried leaving, but all the neighbouring countries have the same type of government, so it was futile.
If in this situation someone kills the dictator very few people would believe that the assassin should be in jail. They didn't kill someone because they were violent or dangerous, they did so out of desperation and a desire for improvement. This assassin won't be a threat to any other citizen, only to other dictators doing the same thing. Why imprison someone who was fighting for a better future?
Alright, I'll get back to you and be sure to apologize when this alleged Act II starts and shit goes south. For now, I'm going to be enjoying the part where everyone claps because the bad guy is dead.
I mean honestly the being knee deep in blood because a revolution started after one guy was acquitted for killing a CEO sounds way more like a movie plot to me but idk.
Regardless, the point of that wasn't that "the CEO is dead, now everyone is saved!!!" Right now we literally have a situation where a dictator was removed from power in Syria. The outcome of that is still unknown, and could turn into something worse or something better, time will tell. But either way no-one is really saying "how dare they violently overthrow the government, don't you know that violence is bad", because that would be a stupid reaction to Assad being removed.
In any of these situations saying that the person using violence to respond to violence deserves to be imprisoned doesn't make sense. Luigi Mangione would not be someone I'd feel unsafe walking past in the street, so why should they be locked up? The point of a prison system should be preventing someone from committing crime again, but I wouldn't be worried about that in the case of Mangione so it makes no sense to sentence them to prison.
I also don't want a violent revolution to come from this. Some violent actions leading to a government making large reforms as a concession to avoid further violence is something that happened all throughout history, and is how we got the New Deal. Something like that coming out of actions like this would be great, but my ideal system of change is more based on mutual aid and setting up dual power to allow people alternatives to replace corporations or weak government programs. But if a violent revolution does happen, it still doesn't make sense to blame the people being oppressed and not the corporations doing the oppressing.