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I am so sad by how Ukraine has been handled.
The West should have been an overwhelming power against Russian imperialism. Ukraine should have been given everything from the beginning, no strings attached, with no self-imposed red lines.
They will swallow another democracy in 10-20 years and the cycle repeats.
Ah yes "muh Russian Imperialism" argument/excuse that we all heard a bajillion times
What exactly do you describe Russia's actions in Ukraine then if not imperialism? Do you believe Ukrainians have a right to self determination?
They lost the right when they Allowed a coup govt to take control & bow down to US interests & harbour Nazis
USA forced Putin to blackmail/bribe the Ukrainian president to do a complete 180 on the EU and then kicked off a fuckoff huge series of protests? Remember to stretch before reaching that far
Suuuuure he Blackmailed, Russia has zero influence in Ukraine Maybe next time Speak with ACTUAL Ukrainians (Cuz I did)
This is a gross and uneducated understanding of the issues that led to the revolution.
Suuuure cuz you said so, you're also gonna deny the killing of ethnic Russians & Shelling in Donbas ? No Not even the fact that there was an agreement that NATO shouldn't expand borders ?
No ? None at all ? Ok fine
That is literally a bullshit copypaste psyop that Russia regurgitated for over a decade to drum up a false narrative.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_have_you_been_for_eight_years%3F
Unless you're just a Russian who's obligated to regurgitate your Nazi state Rhetoric, I'd suggest you educate yourself a little bit on the history of what caused this conflict, the sooner you realize that Russia has been waging probably the largest information war in history in the years leading up to this war.
**Understand one fundemental thing. Russia is a country that is mentally stuck in the 1700s and is obsessed over big lines on maps, speheres of influence, Emprie. It wants these things, It cant have these things without blood. It wont abandon its pursuit of these things. Russia wants America and NATO out of the picture so it can pick on who it wants. Russia has absolutely no chance of defeating NATO in a military conflict. So their only hope in a confrontation is to have the other side tear itself apart internally, everything they've done online the past 15 to 20 years has been in pursuit of that end goal. **
the sooner you realize that, you'll stop making a fool of yourself, doing their work for them by posting the same garbage that they cooked up in a military internet troll farm to aid their tinpot worldview goals. And if you dont, well, dont bother replying with more of your crap to me, because I Have an acute sense for Russian Nazi / Kremlin propaganda. You're wasting your time.
Even BBC confirmed it, all you've done is yell that it's propaganda, sorry but nope, That doesn't cut it anymore
& cut it out with the "troll" accusations, your side is the one spitting propaganda, people like you also said that Ukraine will bleed Russia dry, now the cat's out of the bag You're NAFO imperialists & not in any high positions of morality
Russia you mean of course.
& USA (mostly)
And russia entirely