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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says his party will bring forward a motion of non-confidence to bring down the Trudeau government in the next sitting of the House of Commons.

"The Liberals don't deserve another chance," Singh wrote in a letter on Friday. "That's why the NDP will vote to bring this government down."

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[-] psvrh@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Just to remind everyone: Layton pulled this same stunt, toppling Martin's government.

The result was the loss of a number of progressive initiatives Martin's people were working on, the election of fucking Stephen Harper and the most conservative Canadian political landscape since Borden. Science was suppressed, lslamophobia went from being a dogwhistle to a bullhorn, we narrowly avoided economic catastrophy. Harper even fucked with the Census in an attempt to remake Canada.

A lot of dippers really idolized Layton, but honestly he was a shameless opportunist and I don't forgive him for giving us almost a decade of Harper.

And Singh is pulling the same fucking stunt.

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Poilievre is winning a majority no matter what, I'd rather get it out of the way sooner instead of sitting through another year of ineffective Liberal virtue signalling.

There a good chance PP will just get more conservative votes in already conservative areas and still end up with a minority.

At that point he’ll have to find another party to work with and he’s already pissed them all off.

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

There's a good chance PP will just get more conservative votes in already conservative areas and still end up with a minority.

What are you basing this on?

The way Canadian elections work.

If more people in rural Alberta vote conservative it won’t add to their seat count but it’ll add to their lead in the polls.

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Yes, but what makes you think that that could possibly be what's about to happen?

I think it is far more likely that liberal voters turnout will be down because of trudeau fatigue, this will cost the liberals battleground ridings. I think conservatives will have higher turnout than normal in traditional red seats since there is now a chance of their vote mattering. And I think that will cost the liberals even more seats.

I base this prediction on liberal party performance in the last two by-elections.

So yours is as much as a guess as mine is?

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I base this prediction on liberal party performance in the last two by-elections.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Conservative voters always vote conservative in every election. Progressive voters and swing voters only vote whenever the hell they feel like it. If conservatives are going up in the polls, that means moderates or progressives are intending to vote conservative, (edit: or that fewer progressives or moderates are planning to vote at all) not that more conservatives are planning to vote instead of not vote.

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