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submitted 18 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) by ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Ie not vegan@lemmy.world.

Edit: I am going to try to start my own for now here https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/plantbased

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 17 hours ago

I wouldn't say Lemmygrad has odd takes for being MLs, they are extremely consistent with most organized ML parties worldwide. I'd need to know what you mean by "odd," the fact that they have an ML line or their interpretation of ML, the latter of which is very standard from what I have seen.

Back to Veganism, I haven't experienced hostility, and I think it's generally going to be that way unless you bash veganism or defend antiveganism or non-veganism, hence the point of a vegan community. Just my 2 cents.

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 17 hours ago

That's good to know, thanks for sharing! I appreciate your explanations.

IDK, I disagree. I've experienced it both on reddit and here. Everyone is vegan or vegetarian for their own reasons, I don't think enforces a specific ideology or you can't discuss is fair to newbies or anyone is doesn't 100% agree.

Regardless, I will look for another not lemmy.world one.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 17 hours ago

Gotcha. In my opinion, one must understand both viewpoints, that of the newcomer and that of the tired, long-ime vegan. Looking at problems from one side alone is anti-dialectical and results in false conclusions. There will be no perfect community for the new and the old, and communities are made and maintained by the old so it will lean in their favor regardless.

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 16 hours ago

Good application of dialects but they can at least be nice… :/

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 16 hours ago

You can be the change you want to see. If you find a community that is close to what you want, you can actively participate and offer suggestions to help "onboarding" of new vegans. I try to do the same with Marxism, even making an intro reading list that I frequently share (and keep linked on my profile), because I know other comrades are more tired and hostile as a consequence. I refuse to blame hostile reaction when existence itself is under siege regularly, be it veganism or Marxism, and would rather take on the proactive mantle myself.

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 15 hours ago

Great advice! I think you’re definitely doing that as your replies today and yesterday are both enlightening and kind.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 15 hours ago

Thank you! 🫡

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