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this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2024
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Btw, Lemmy.world also censors Luigi posts. I would switch to ML or mine
“I don’t like censorship, you should check out ML”
Troll or least aware fediverse user?
I meant it as better than lemmy.world in censoring in a neolib bias and thinking it’s not hexbear or lemmygrad. I have less bad experience with ML, so I guess least aware user lol ;)
From my experience as an anarchist user who ended up volunteering to moderate in these spaces, most of the censorship happens when people are either being racist or aggro/sealioning. While users definitely tend to be more positive when it comes to China in places like hexbear than in more heavily pro-west spaces they are still critical of its shortcomings.
An example here: >80 up voted post with one of the highest comments criticizing the poor standard of care for trans youth in China
Here's a thread criticizing Russia for being a cringe misogynist capitalist oligarchy and lamenting that the progress for women's rights and LGBT rights that happened under communism wasn't preserved. Again it's a positive orientation because they are opposed to the west but also one of deep disappointment in their failures on social issues.
To me at least this type of commentary is a valuable perspective and is also stuff which often gets filtered entirely under the more advertiser-friendly moderation styles.
At the end of the day I value being able to at least hear dissent, I'm surrounded by the mainstream narrative in my daily life already anyways.
Sorry but unfortunately it’s two sides of the same coin, at least from my experience.
I’m shitting on US and Western imperialism and their love for the Gaza genocide day in day out, had no problem to call the old senile fuck Genocide Joe and I argued against everyone who shilled for Kamala or the “lesser evil“ thing.
I got a lot of hatred for the latter part on .world and I often disagree with their liberal views. I criticized liberal media for fabricating certain narratives and some users thought I’m some MAGA brain damaged idiot. Some users really aren’t the smartest or at least very much stuck in their bi-partisan world view.
Anyway so now that you know all of this about me, I’m also criticizing Chinese and Russian imperialism + genocide the same way. I got banned after like 1 comment on .ml for that and they said it’s for “racism“.
I honestly don’t see any difference, it’s just that .world and .ml users picked different teams. And I got banned faster in .ml lol
the Winnie the Pooh comments are racist though, it's not hard to have substantive critiques of China without constantly falling back on trying to equate the president with a yellow cartoon animal (or in your case, calling a moderator that). We don't have to get into it, but they almost always hand out temp bans for that. For example yours is already expired.
That's a strange assumption to make. "Because it's forbidden in China" is a sufficient explanation of why people do this. For the exact same reason people will forever keep bringing up the Tiananmen Square Massacre.
Ah I love the modlog, convenient that I can see again what happened.
The whole Winnie thing became forbidden in China partly because the meme went super viral on Weibo and they didn’t want people in China to ridicule the supreme leader. Ban me for trolling the mod by equating them to Xi Jinping, I’m fine with that. I will think you should have a thicker skin but whatever. Using racism as a reason to ban me in this context is just censorship.
To provide the context for those too lazy to check the modlog, the comment I’m answering to is straight genocide denial. The Uyghurs are being held in concentration camps, sterilized and their language, religion, and heritage are being wiped out and .ml mods are denying that because it doesn’t fit in their world view.
I'm aware of where the meme came from, personally I think it's bad taste to be yapping about uyghurs in a thread about the Gaza genocide.
If people were gleefully calling Obama "Tigger" after that, and constantly doing that instead of having a real argument or something to say I think that would start resulting in bans for racism too.
They can call Obama a piece of shit as far as I’m concerned.
The mod was kinda right to remove the comment before that because that user is some Hasbara shill and was mentioning the Uyghurs as a deflection.
My issue isn’t with that, my issue is with the formulation “the Uyghur genocide narrative“. That’s literally the same shit that liberal media is saying about Gaza. So that’s what I mean, I’ll always be “yapping“ about the Uyghur genocide the same way I’m “yapping“ about the Ukraine & Gaza genocide. I don’t care who does it, it’s wrong.
The issue is the application of a thinly veiled racist caricature though. Call Xi a dictator, piece of shit, whatever, but evidence it and don't rely on racist tropes and I doubt you will catch a ban for it.
Meh it’s fine, the mods can insist that it’s racist and they can insist there’s no genocide happening in Xinjiang, and I won’t be there to argue with them. My ban may be expired but I won’t be back. I’ll keep calling them out on other instances tho, and even though the lemmy dev are tankies themselves I respect them for making such a concept possible.