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submitted 3 days ago by chobeat@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

While there are plenty of spaces for debate, news commentary, "political internet culture", memes, and so on, I still haven't found a single community dedicated to any form of collective action, either IRL or in digital spaces. There are some communities dedicated to unions, but it seems mostly news commentary and very little action, educational material, events, or projects to plug yourself into.

I understand that the core user base of lemmy might not be the most prone to collective action, but I'm still surprised there's nothing even on the most political communities.

Any suggestion?

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

There's a good deal on org theory as well, such as theory on Democratic Centralism, the Mass Line, how to conduct yourself within orgs such as Liu Shaoqi's How to be a Good Communist (on my reading list, in fact), and more. If you have specific questions, there are also comms for asking those as well.

[-] chobeat@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

I was thinking more about practical knowledge to employ today, rather than political speculation on hypothetical societal/political structure. I need people to get better at facilitating meetings, tracking tasks, and writing notes. Until then, discussing democratic centralism is sterile escapism.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

I think you're a bit confused here, Democratic Centralism and the Mass Line are organizational principles. They are primarily for party structure, not only mass societal structure, and Liu Shaoqi's work is on behavior within orgs. Any union, political party, etc. can and would benefit from learning these and discussing them.

Is there something specific you are asking about? Like, how to file for specific legal status or something?

[-] chobeat@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think you’re a bit confused here, Democratic Centralism and the Mass Line are organizational principles. They are primarily for party structure, not only mass societal structure, and Liu Shaoqi’s work is on behavior within orgs. Any union, political party, etc. can and would benefit from learning these and discussing them.

Fair enough, but I don't believe mass parties can be built anymore without a mass society, so it's stuff I don't really read about because again, it's not really actual or usable.

Is there something specific you are asking about? Like, how to file for specific legal status or something?

In other spaces like the ones I would like to find on lemmy, the areas that get discussed are stuff like organization design, process design, software and software practices, facilitation, mediation, consensus building, effective communication and so on and so forth. You know, the stuff you need to build an organization that is effective in the world.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

I don't know what you mean by a "mass society," these principles and methods are practical even in starting small orgs in existing Capitalist society. You'll have to be more clear on why you think they aren't.

Secondly, the theoretical principles and works I listed are absolutely in line with what you describe, particularly the subjects of Mediation, Organization Design, Effective Communication, Facilitation, and Process Design. I struggle to see why you think what I already listed doesn't fulfill those.

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