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[-] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 76 points 1 year ago

20-mile-per-hour speed limit permitted for riders under 16

So, unmodified, slower than a bicycle where your average cyclist can sprint to over 30 mph without much trouble.

This is just media fear mongering about [new thing]. When I was a kid there were plenty of bicycle wrecks where kids got hurt, sometimes severely, and the media wasn't pearl-clutching about the "danger" of pedal bikes.

[-] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 57 points 1 year ago

It's much more difficult to reach and sustain 30 mph on a pedal bike, and if you're doing that you're typically quite invested in it. E-bikes on the other hand it's really easy to get to a very high speed, and I frequently see people doing it while on their phone, without wearing a helmet, and/or with additional passengers.

I think a little bit of education here could go a long way.

[-] 30p87@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Then the worried parents should either properly educate their children about their safety behaviour, not whine about it.

[-] thejevans@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

Solutions to systemic problems that rely on personal responsibility tend to have very low efficacy.

[-] 30p87@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

I was more focused on the "without helmet, looking at phone" part. As a parent, it should be no surprise for them if their children end up with permanent brain damage if neglecting security completely.

[-] thejevans@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The parent in the article had no idea their child was riding without a helmet, and there is no reason to believe they did not teach their child to ride with a helmet.

If the goal is to actually reduce harm, infrastructure changes will have a far larger impact than education/information campaigns to convince kids and parents to be safer. This has been shown many times over by the NHTSA and the WHO.

Interactions with cars make for many more conflict opportunities during rides. Shared paths with pedestrians in high traffic areas do the same, but with much lower consequences. Dockless electric bike/scooter companies encourage adhoc rides which drastically reduce the chance that a given rider will have proper safety gear, and increases the likelihood of riding under the influence of drugs/alcohol. Having to deal with lots of intersections with stop lights/signs further increases conflict opportunities.

Separate, protected, and streamlined infrastructure for micromobility will go much further to protect people.

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