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submitted 1 year ago by negativenull@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Most servers are not able to access the Google API.

Invidious report of the same(ish) problem: https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/issues/4045#issuecomment-1674373088

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[-] Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone 192 points 1 year ago

Not to be a downer but... how did people not anticipate this happening? Google is likely going to do everything they can to shut down non-official clients like Piped, since they're sidestepping all of YouTube's revenue streams. Hopefully they don't take the nuclear option and somehow lock down the API and make it much harder to download videos via tools like yt-dlp.

[-] negativenull@lemm.ee 66 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure most people anticipated it at some point. I just seems to be starting now.

[-] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 year ago

Yeah we're basically hurting their revenue by using Piped and other ways to bypass Google's ads. They wouldn't be profitable if everyone stopped watching those ads

[-] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 56 points 1 year ago

Noooooooooo! The poor google 😢

their $412,378/s has been reduced to $412,367/s! 😭 😭

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[-] acastcandream@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They’re making plenty of profit selling all of our data  and getting ad revenue from the 95%+ of other users who aren’t blocking them.

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[-] BrioxorMorbide@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Well, if they implement their web integrity DRM thingy in Chrome and Youtube then that will prevent anything that's not a real approved browser from accessing the website, and with that the video streams. Not only Piped/Newpipe, but anything automated trying to access any website will be automatically locked out unless the website approves of it. New search engine bot? Archiving crawlers? Any type of third party program that accesses some website's content without approval? Dead.

[-] pufferfischerpulver@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not going to be popular saying this but how is the service supposed to survive without a revenue stream? It takes a shit ton of bandwidth and storage to keep YouTube running, that ain't free.

I get that the ads are incredibly annoying but if you truly watch as much YouTube as some people in this thread are claiming, maybe it's worth paying for it? I bit the bullet and for basically the price of my cancelled Spotify subscription I now have no ads in YT and an okay streaming service with yt music.

Of course Google could do things better. And actually I think it would be important to have a competitor. But I wouldn't expect that one to be free either.

[-] Fosheze@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

If youtube fixed their content ID system and stopped falsely demonitizing all the creators I watch then I would hapily pay for youtube red (or whatever they call it now). As it is though I'm not giving them my money just for them to pay copyright trolls with some of it. I'd rather give my money to noone than risk having some of it go to the people leaching off the completely broken content ID system.

[-] teruma@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It's called RedTube now.

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YouTube should be public infrastructure.

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[-] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 1 year ago

If you are using LibreTube this is fixable by disabling piped proxies in the setting. HOWEVER do be warned that Youtube will know your IP, so you should only really do this while using a VPN service.

[-] xuxebiko@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

Real heroes don't wear capes, they give solid advice.

ps: thanks

Thanks. Worked for me.

Took me a while to find the setting under the audio and video section of the settings, because I was constantly looking for it under instance, general or advanced.

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[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

I watch more YouTube than I do television these days.

As of now, I'm able to watch it ad free on both Brave and Firefox. I don't have revanced as I'm more or less too technically stupid to do it.

If it becomes impossible to watch YouTube, I'll walk away from it just like I did cable in 2009 and Netflix in 2023.

I haven't sailed the high seas since the eighties, and I'd honestly prefer not to, but you gotta make a product that doesn't consistently try to piss me off.

[-] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago
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[-] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 59 points 1 year ago

They are definitely in a crackdown phase. Some revanced versions stopped working just yesterday, the yt-dlp stuff, the ad block block...

The best hope would be to get off of YouTube but that's not happening any time soon given how expensive bandwidth is.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I updated mine last week cuz it was stopping videos a minute in. Seems to work for now.

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[-] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

I guess that's it then. If I'm forced to see ads and be tracked I'll just block the domain on my network like I did reddit and invest that time in other things.

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

You can always grab a browser extension. Apple has Vinegar, not sure what others run. Just plucks the video feed direct pretty much like Piped. So no ads. Still stuck on YT unfortunately

[-] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago

Would it be possible for many, many people to use yt downloaders to fetch certain categories of yt videos (Linux tutorials for example) and serve them in a decentralized media network like the fediverse? Basically a distributed, downloaded "migration" of yt content, with no central source or authority that the pipe apps can retrieve from instead of YouTube. Yet again, I've basically just reinvented bittorrent but for YouTube content, so maybe it's not that practical...

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[-] gamey@feddit.rocks 25 points 1 year ago

I just wish Peertube had proper federation and a more accessible interface, some of their decitions sadly make is a unvaiable alternative! :(

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[-] RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago

Good to know what was going on — I just noticed yesterday that piped vids weren’t loading for me.

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[-] NormalC@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We should open our own YouTube, with blackjack... and hookers! That'll show those google guys.

[-] elouboub@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

I mean, peertube exists and it's part of the fediverse. I don't know if lemmy can comment or view the videos, but mastodon sure can.

[-] gunpachi@lemmings.world 12 points 1 year ago

We already have peertube and Odysee. But majority of the content still lies in Youtube.

[-] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 21 points 1 year ago

It's time LibreTube moved on from Pipe Backend too. Too many times the app just doesn't work leading to server hopping and more.

I could use NewPipe but the app has a really terrible UI.

[-] Kk@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

LibreTube existence is built upon Piped as far as I know. Even the developer wants you to donate to Piped instead of LibreTube as far as I remember.
Isn't Piped the only way to easily mask YouTube history with Google? So I think we should be very thankful of the existence of Piped

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[-] KrimsonBun@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

NewPipe has been having a lot of issues as well. Videos crash a minute in and the only way to solve it is to clear cache which only works for one video.

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[-] Plagiatus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Man, just when I downloaded LibreTube. :(

[-] gamey@feddit.rocks 9 points 1 year ago

It's actually the exact same problem, Youtube now blocks IPs on the video endpoint aka everything except for the actual stream works which is a new thi g to adapt to, they used to block access entirely before.

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