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[-] undefined@links.hackliberty.org 107 points 4 months ago

Oh wonderful! Another 10 years and we can use it natively without polyfills!

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] mattd@programming.dev 36 points 4 months ago
[-] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Ah, that makes sense

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[-] Anders429@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago

Doesn't stop your manager from requiring support for the other 4%.

[-] agelord@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Most websites these days refuse to support even Firefox.

[-] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

~~Yeah, pretty much as Flex at 97% which is a nice comparison.~~

Edit: See mattd’s comment

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[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 67 points 4 months ago

Why are we not angrier about css generally?

[-] Blackout@fedia.io 61 points 4 months ago

Because things were much worse in the beforetime

[-] Damage@feddit.it 45 points 4 months ago

What, you didn't enjoy slicing up images and arranging them in borderless tables?

[-] breckenedge@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Eh the software handled all that. Rounded corners tho…

[-] Tanoh@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Rounded corners tho…

Just a small gif (as png didn't exist/widely supported) that had the rounded corner. Then if someone wanted to change the color or background you would have to redo all the images. Fun fun.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Nah it's fine, we'll just do the whole website in Shockwave.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 4 months ago

WYSIWYG editors were evil

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The software? Are you talking about Adobe ~~Dreamweaver~~ Dreamcrusher or something?

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago

My money's on Microsoft Frontpage

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[-] curry@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago

Please indicate where IE touched you.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

*gestures broadly at entire body

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[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

In my faux column

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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

I am blisteringly angry about CSS in general AND THIS FUCKING ISSUE IN PARTICULAR since 2005 at the very latest. Likely enough to up the average for several thousand people with only mild dislike for CSS.

If CSS had a church I would burn it down. In minecraft of course.

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 38 points 4 months ago

I would say because a) there are zero alternatives, and b) it's pretty powerful; you can generally do pretty much any layout even if it requires hacks, c) switching to something else is clearly infeasible so it's not worth even asking for.

Just have to live with it (on the web at least).

[-] Damage@feddit.it 38 points 4 months ago

d) we remember the world before it was introduced

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 4 months ago

What we were promised:

Content in one HTML document.

Styles in other CSS, able to apply any to completely alter the layout of the document.

What we got:

<div class="mt mid flex lt-8 no-margin up-1">

[-] Kissaki@programming.dev 9 points 4 months ago
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

CSS 3 is solid, mate. You can do just about anything with it if you know what you're doing.

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 months ago

Some of the pure CSS stuff I've seen is actually insane.

Obviously not actually for real world use, but a great example is https://github.com/kkuchta/css-only-chat

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

With pseudo sectors, flex, and grid, your options are amazing. I haven't encountered a design I can't build in a very long time.

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

BaCkWaRdS cOmPaTiBiLiTy 😵‍💫

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[-] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 62 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
* { display: flex; }
[-] refalo@programming.dev 48 points 4 months ago

Is it just me or is the irony lost on the author? It says "align-content: center" but it's only vertically aligned...

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

That's because under flexbox for horizontal alignment you use a different property called justify-content.

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[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago

Because we already have a way to center text horizontally...

[-] refalo@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes but my grief was with the naming... why not call it vertical-center? Just "center" is very confusing to me because it does not include horizontal.

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[-] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

Well that came like 10 years too late lol

I don't think I'll ever use it considering it was already easily possible with flexbox, and before that (although dirtier) with tables as well.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Well, we've been vertically centring content with no-trick pure CSS for years now, so, good I guess?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

no-trick pure CSS

What do you mean? How else would you center content without CSS?

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

There were tons of options with multiple HTML elements with a sequence of CSS properties to reliably provide vertical centering (and also use vertical space at the same time) back in the days.

Now, between flex and grid (mainly flex for me, I find them more convenient) all the HTML scaffolding we used to make this work can be removed to get the same result. That's what I mean with "no trick".

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

It's worthless if you have to give it an explicit height, and also if it doesn't have support in all browsers.

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