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[-] protist@mander.xyz 37 points 5 months ago

Why is everyone shitting on this? I'd much rather our federal government be hiring people to do this kind of work than not. Things like invasive species management are not profitable, and I'm glad Biden is investing in them

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think it's a good idea. I think the timing is terrible for actually doing it. It sounds like it was a well-timed election year announcement and it risks being totally undone by Trump in under a year.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 5 months ago

It takes time to put programs together, and explains some barriers in the article. It sounds like you're saying Biden shouldn't enact his policy priorities because there's a chance Trump might get elected...?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I'm saying this is an announcement very late in his term that would probably get him some votes. Are you saying it couldn't possibly have been implemented before now?

[-] protist@mander.xyz 11 points 5 months ago

Biden first announced that he planned to revive a version of FDR’s Civilian Conservation Corps during his first days in office in 2021. But the program took a while to get off the ground after its funding got cut during negotiations with Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat from West Virginia, to pass the Inflation Reduction Act, the landmark climate bill Biden signed in 2022. In time, the Biden administration cobbled together funding from a bunch of different agencies to start the program

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago

"In time" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that paragraph, I hope you realize that.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 10 points 5 months ago

To be fair, Joe Manchin was also doing a lot of heavy "sitting in the way".

[-] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

He tried to pass it in 2022 but Manchin cut it from the IRA, and it took his Admin about 18 months since he signed the IRA to plan, fund, and implement this brand new federal program with no legislative assistance. How is that anything but just how the cards fell?! Not everything is some nefarious scheme

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Because it smacks of sticking your head in the sand and pretending everything is fine. Literally the only thing that's going to finally make everyone get serious about climate change is when they're forced to deal with the consequences of it and along comes the federal government to go "don't worry about those consequences, we'll deal with them". This is also money and effort not solving the problem. The first step before literally anything else needs to be stopping climate change. Once that's taken care of then it's time for programs like this to repair the damage. Until then it's just a bandage on a sucking chest wound, you're literally wasting time and money that won't change anything because the problem is just going to keep getting worse.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 4 points 5 months ago

Can you please operationalize "stopping climate change?"

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Sure, step 1 is undo everything that's been done to the EPA over the last couple decades and then go the opposite direction. Give them real teeth to actually hurt businesses that damage the environment. Not just fines but things like barring them from doing business in the US if they're a repeat offender. Should probably go after the big oil companies as well, they profited for nearly half a century despite knowing the damage they were doing and actively working to cover it up. Seize their assets, liquidate them, and go after the personal finances of their current and former executives.

Step 2 is to put federal and state funds into nuclear and renewable power with the goal of eliminating all coal, oil, and natural gas power plants over the next decade.

Step 3 is banning ICE cars, and putting heavily enforced restrictions on ships. And don't let them take the international waters loophole. If a ship is capable of polluting by running on essentially sludge while in international waters don't even let it dock in the US.

Step 4 is working with other countries to enact the same changes internationally. We had a strong start with the Paris accords and then Trump took a giant shit on them. We need to show the international community that Trump was an anomaly and we're serious about climate change. This needs to include both a carrot and stick. Get other countries on board voluntarily at first, but anyone whose dragging their feet needs to start facing sanctions and increasing import and export tariffs the longer they delay and the worse they pollute.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

The legislature will have to do all of that, and Republicans control the House, soooo....

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 months ago

They're just stating what needs to be done. Not now feasible it'll be.

[-] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

It is way worse than most realize. I watched this Climate Town video recently about natural gas and it really was jarring as not only are we not doing enough to reduce emissions, we are actually accelerating them. https://youtu.be/K2oL4SFwkkw?si=jpqQRuHc-IqSwV4w

[-] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

2 jobs available in my state. $11.65/hr and $11.00/hr. Is this some kind of joke?

[-] kozy138@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

You're obviously just lazy and don't want to work...

/s

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 9 points 5 months ago

I got downvoted to hell for saying the jobs were paying so low.

[-] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Maintenance of the Pearl Harbor National Memorial's integrity through regular upkeep of facilities and landscapes. Prioritization of the safety, conservation, and historical preservation to honor the site's significance and ensure an enriching experience for visitors.

How TF does this do anything to mitigate climate change?

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

They should have called it conservation Corp because that can be related to anything

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The weirder part is that it was separated from the larger Pacific National Monument in 2019 and that monument does have nature preserves.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Ah yes, because fighting a losing battle against the symptoms rather than the cause sounds like a great time. In the meantime Republicans are busy neutering the last vestiges of actual power from the EPA and trying to actually pass legislation making it illegal for states to regulate the environment. Funny how they scream states rights when it's something they want like discriminating against minorities, but are all too happy to use the federal government to ban anything that's good for the public at the expense of profits.

[-] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

These salary’s aren’t going to cut it.

We need to attract the best for this, if it’s truly meant to parallel the new deal.

This is not going to attract many high impact candidates, and simply won’t pull in people who are experts in their fields. This is not something we can leave to private equity to solve. The government has to get serious about this sooner or later, it’s fiscally irresponsible and inhumane to continue to kick the can down the road.

Now that the roads not too far away, we can still spend big now to save so much down the line.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

This is great to hear, anyone else browsing jobs?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

Just in time for SCOTUS to gut Chevron and the Electoral College to anoint Trump!

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