Without down votes, votes are meaningless.

My problem with downvotes is that people are using downvotes to downvote that things they don't like.

I have observed people heavily downvoting the following things:

• SPH
• Humiliation
• Cocks/gay
• Cuckold content
• Male gonewild posters
• Celebs
• OC posters that are not a perfect 10/10
• Niche fetishes

This leads to

1. People not wanting to post things
2. People who do like those things not discovering those things in hot/top
3. Less activity on the site overall because of decreased morale of posters especially OC posters

This is why I am in favor of disallowing downvotes.

Having upvotes is enough to determine which is "good" or "great" or even "bad" content in a community. Because the upvote count relative to other posts in the community tells how it was perceived by the community.

Having a more "targeted" home page may help people find things that they like instead of an endless stream of a big jumble of random content.

Reddit doesn't have this problem because no one browses the entirety of NSFW content by new instead there is an "all" but even that had NSFW content removed from it. So really people are browsing only by the things they have subscribed to meaning if someone were to downvote a post they don't like they would have to go out of their way to see it.

As someone who posts OC, disabling down votes has been a big improvement.

I post pictures of my wife and I. We do this for our own pleasure and to help contribute to the community.

We are not conventionally attractive, but on Reddit we were able to find many places where we could feel welcomed, valued, and hot!

When I started posting here our content was heavily downvoted, even in communities appropriate for it. This was very discouraging. It made us feel bad about doing something we should be doing for fun.

Removing downloads has been a positive change for us. It's made us feel better about posting here.

I would prefer to keep no down votes for the time being. The biggest problem facing this platform right now is a lack of people posting OC. We need more contributors.

To focus should be on making things as comfortable and positive as possible for the people who choose to contribute.

It's only been a short amount of time since the change was implemented. Is there any data to show if there has been a change in the amount of OC posted?

Everyone should be able to downvote.

It’s wild how much people care about downvotes. From policing what downvotes “mean” to outright disabling them.

Why does it matter? I mean that sincerely.

I think it's a good solution. To date, I've been on the fence about disabling downvotes. I can see the positive impact it's had for posters who can be more confident that they won't be downvoted into oblivion by others. But not having downvotes has been hard to get used to, it somehow makes upvotes seem less valuable

Will it be possible to prevent someone from subscribing to a community to downvote and then unsubscribing?

only members of that community.
Local is ment to discover communities and subscribed is ment for content that you like, see and want to follow. If you don't like something, just don't interact with it, simply as that, if see you something that does not fit the community or breaks the rules, go ahead downvote + report it.

If there is content you li

big edit: When I first register here, I don't like yiff, and thats me thats that, but I didn't start downvoting every post I saw, I dud start blocking them, and that was on local. Today I browser and no yify content has shown up.

Voted in poll.

I think only allowing community members to vote is a reasonable solution. This is similar to political parties and having primaries, so it's not a radical idea.

If one is not invested in a community and not contributing (in whatever ways), just stay quiet and observe on the sidelines.

If one is invested, then by all means take the time to subscribe and truly help build a community with your engagement (even if just by silent voting).

I'm confident there will be some known trolls and haters who simply like to downvote for the fun of it and they will spitefully subscribe to every imaginable community to demonstrate their "right to downvote". 😂 Bless them...

Still a bit on the fence about the whole ordeal. But i can live with community based downvotes, to mitigate the downvotes from all browsers for OC posters.

I think the arguments, in the last thread, from the nsfw AI communities made alot of sense to me. Downvotes within an already formed community can be beneficial.

And i do miss not being able to downvote comments on other instances tbh.

Im voting pro this new rule, its gonna be a bit of trial and error. So let's just try it for a while and see how it goes.

It apparently is/could be an option to ban users from communities as a mod, that gives me the freedom to curate my audience a bit in my own one. I could post for the entirety of lemmy and eat some downvotes when im feeling up for the exposure or retreat in my safespace/community when i wanna interact with users specificaly subscribed to my content.

Did something change in the last day or two? Looks like downvotes are gone again, but there was no post about it here 🤔

I commented on the original thread about the decision that I thought downvotes for community members only would be a good solution, and I'm very glad to see it under consideration. I have voted in the poll accordingly.

Meanwhile, I do appreciate the viewpoint expressed so eloquently by @WooBoy@lemmynsfw.com, and want to express appreciation for their contribution to the community and empathy for their experience. As a user who subscribes to communities that interest me, pretty much keeps to my 'Subscribed' feed, votes on posts, and sometimes comments on posts or participates in discussion, but who hasn't really posted any OC, my interest is of course in expressing my satisfaction or dissatisfaction with a post, and marking it such that it no longer appears in my feed when I have 'Show Read Posts' unselected in my preferences.

I bring up the latter point because I'd ask, IF you ultimately make the decision NOT to make downvotes available to community members, would it be possible to institute some ability to hide a specific post (rather than block a user), or mark a post as read. This could also be a workable alternative.

Sincere thanks for being proactive, transparent, and willing to consider community feedback.

Posts on lemmit.online tend to have 0-1 upvotes. We need down votes to help give some information to the sorter algorithm, otherwise it's just guessing. By disabling upvotes here, my app (Voyager) doesn't let me down vote other instances, idk if that's the app or the instance.

Not a big deal but it is kinda confusing that despite not being able to downvote a post the default browser UI shows a downvote button.

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