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Despite being a heavy cell phone user for more than 25 years, it only recently occurred to me that vertical navigation on most phones is inverted when compared to traditional computers. You swipe down to navigate upward, and up to navigate downward. I recently spent time using a MacBook, which apparently defaults to this "natural" scrolling (mobile-style), and I was completely thrown off by it.

I've been using natural scrolling on a couple of my own desktops ever since, mostly as a mental exercise, and I wondered...how many of you folks prefer this method?

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[-] theletterw@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I use both a pc and Mac, as well as my phone and I just get mixed up all the time. Gives me something to think about.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Generally it's more about the interaction. If the user views it as interacting with the viewport, it tends to be inverted. If the user views the interaction as interacting with the scroll bar, it's "natural". Scroll wheel is the only odd one out. However it was introduced prior to mousepads supporting gestures. So it basically started as an extension of the scroll bar interaction, but as mousepads introduced the concept of interacting with the viewport, scroll wheels were given the option to respond either way based on user preference.

[-] greaterthanstupid@dmv.social 2 points 1 year ago

as someone who frequently must switch between mac/linux/win/etc, i have had no choice but to switch to 'natural' because the varied OSes point you that way now. i used to spend much time learning how to customize each and every setting, but it became more hassle than it was worth to just learn the new way.

[-] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

No I don't on pc. It feels more natural to do reverse scrolling for me on a mouse. On my laptop when I use a window manager it defaults to reverse scrolling, but when I switch to a desktop environment it defaults to natural scrolling, so I just go with whatever the laptop gives me on the touchpad.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I use a rotary knob for scrolling since I don't own a mouse

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Natural, but I use a touchpad.

At work I sometimes switch the scrolling over to traditional. Others get completely thrown out and cannot grok it! 😂

[-] BewitchedBargain@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

I noticed this in video games rather than on-screen text scrolling. Some of them had a weapon selection, but instead had mouse-wheel-down "decrease" the weapon slot, and mouse-wheel-up "increase" it. However, the game also used the mouse wheel for other things, thus changing it to my preference had some unexpected side effect.

In any case, mouse-wheel to scroll view works because of the mouse-pointer paradigm. Move both mouse-wheel and mouse in the same direction, and the pointer is further along the content. Move them in opposite directions, and the pointer tends to hold position relative to content.

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