During tests they were holding it wrong.

It does.

Usually engineering and R&D sees these things, but they are too scared to contradict ambitious timelines set up by management.

They just figured oh well it works well in Cupertino. They omitted the fact that Cupertino doesn’t get super hot, ever.

I can assure you it did, they just hoped no one would notice

I could see a case made for the test units having much better heat transfer and once mass produced the silicon lottery inevitably made some chips run hotter. But those variances are not massive, so it would've already had to run pretty hot. IDK

Seems they don’t test

Oh they knew. Apple is just pure scum.

But it uses the same connector as every other device I own, which is the biggest selling point of this year’s model. The performance gains are completely wasted because the 14 was already faster than needed for any usecase.

Why put the pressure on even selling it as a new product. Should’ve just pulled a 14s. Exact same but with usbc and made bank for another year.

I'm not an Apple fan by any by any means, but what a junk article! "Apple may reduce the clock speed of the processor"? C'mon! They do plenty of shitty things to dislike them for already. We don't need to reach for hypotheticals...

I think it speaks volumes for how stagnant phone innovation has become when their marketing campaign is centered on the metal the frame is made out of.

this is also a guy who knows a lot about, and has been following Apple news for a long time.

The company further told Forbes that the fix, which should come with iOS 17.1, won’t result in throttled performance, which some, like Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, have said was a possibility.

https://www.froresystems.com/

This sounds promising. Dustproof. I dont think waterproofing the air channel will be necessary. This can be used as a way to create a channel for air to pass through without compromising the waterproof seal for the phone internals. The air channel can be a pass through and offers a big benefit in cooling. If there is blockage or damaged fins(I think they are vibrating fins.), then the phone will get warm and automatically throttle. A repair will not be needed unless you want the full performance. I live in the hot desert, and active cooling would be a dream come true. Every high-end phone gets hot to the touch from using GPS or streaming outside.

Edit: Another note is that most people don't beat up their phones with high-pressure water(dirty or clean). If that was the case, then the phones water seal would suffer or be compromised as they are water resistant to low pressure and may not seal against high pressure.

Thin and flat too!

Same here. My 15 pro max never gets noticeably warmer than my 14 pro did, even during the initial setup, where it’s doing lots of things. It seems more likely that this is a manufacturing problem that only affects some phones, because people are reporting super hot phones, most of the time, which nobody I know has seen. The phone itself is generating the heat - the climate difference doesn’t sound like the cause.

i guess when you live in a tropical country? like by default the weather is super hot so naturally phones tend to overheat easily too.

It’s not ambient temperature. Tons of people have had no problems using it in in places like Arizona or Florida. Other people have had it turn into a small furnace in much cooler areas / indoors. There’s something else going on.

Apparently it can heat up randomly while doing something not intensive like listening to music or even sitting in your pocket, according to two people from the WVFRM podcast

Same here, my 15 pro max is cold all the time

"Yeah this update is going to make your phones slower" is not something any smartphone producer would ever say. The difference might be negligible, but less power = less performance.