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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 206 points 1 year ago

It’s time to get rid of user-agent strings that declare anything other than desktop, mobile, or html version.

[-] bigbluealien@kbin.social 132 points 1 year ago

99% of sites only need to know your screen aspect ratio and maybe available input devices, can't think of a good reason to share anything else

[-] julianh@lemm.ee 74 points 1 year ago

Knowing OS is useful for download links.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 104 points 1 year ago

I’d be down for an ask to allow that info. Sort of like how sites request access to cam and mic.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

Before Windows 10, NVidia and others had this button Detect what thing suits me best on their websites. Now many of them just look it up in one's fingerprint without asking.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Oh no, they'd have to list more than one link,the horror!

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago

The vast majority of people would have no clue what to download.

[-] daFRAKKINpope@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Let them be confused. They'll learn eventually. Or they won't. Computers are too user friendly today anyway.

[-] 1371113@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Fuckin oath. If we cater to the stupid too much the folks who are middling just get lazy. Make people think. It’s important that we know how to use our brains.

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[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Microsoft hides their links if they see you run linux. So you need to manually set your OS in the browser settings to see the download link. Very convenient.

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[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

The biggest offender is, surprisingly, cloudflare. They will straight up refuse to serve you any site if your user agent is not one of the mainstream ones. It's not even "find the traffic light to prove you're human", but a page basically saying "fuck you, go away".

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[-] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I was a Firefox dev I'd start looking into building in user agent spoofing right into the browser.

It already opens Facebook pages in a special isolated tab. They could have apple.com open in it's own special "safari" tab. I wonder if there's anything preventing them from doing that. I guess it could be bad because it would make their market share appear even smaller.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 37 points 1 year ago

The irony of Firerfox officially agent spoofing while everyone else uses some variant of "Mozilla" as their UAS is too much.

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[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

User agents are not unfortunately not the only way to identify a browser, there are other ways to fingerprint a platform.

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[-] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 123 points 1 year ago

Actually, the top one is the logo of the chromium browser engine, but the bottom one is not the logo of the Gecko browser engine. That's the logo of SpiderMonkey, Firefox's Javascript engine (Chromium uses V8).

This is the logo for Gecko: Gecko logo

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[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 104 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's especially moronic that Cloudflare thinks everyone using Tor is trying to DDOS every site.

Do you know how fucking slow Tor is? You couldn't DDOS an Arduino with it.

[-] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Probably because there are A LOT of people using that tor exit node that have visited that site recently. So, cloudflare sees it as a potential DDOS

[-] candle_lighter@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Onion sites get DDOS attacks constantly. That's why Dread has so many backup links.

[-] narshee@iusearchlinux.fyi 16 points 1 year ago

afaik, cloudflare has an option to disallow tor traffic. so the website owner decided they don't want tor

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[-] iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago

Do we, as an industry, have such short attention span, that we forgot how Microsoft abused their monopoly in the 1990s to force everyone to use Internet Explorer? Now that Google is doing the exact same thing, nobody seems to mind.

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

Because the tech gigacorporations have literally spent the last three decades brainwashing us into accepting shit like that and even convincing us that it's better this way.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago

Not better. No one thinks anything is better, just that we don't have a choice but to take what they serve.

[-] snoopfrog@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago

I remember using Netscape (my Google keyboard didn't know that word) before Firefox and SeaMonkey. I mostly used SeaMonkey to edit HTML and Firefox for my casual browsing.

[-] qupada@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Those of us who had to develop websites and make them even vaguely functional in IE6 haven't forgotten.

Dark times, those were.

[-] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 year ago

I get the joke but I don't have any problems visiting websites. Neither with firefox nor with mull

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Go to https://business.apple.com/#/main/users

Reset your user agent string. It will tell you that your browser is unsupported. Switch your user string to chrome and everything will function as expected.

IT people probably run into more problems with non-chromium browsers.

Edit: it has to be visited on a desktop regardless. ABM does not like mobile browsers.

[-] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 27 points 1 year ago

IT person here, Firefox works fine for everything that matters.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's highly subjective. At our org there's a reason our baseline deployment for workstation images comes with both Chrome and Firefox. We have thousands of users across dozens of specialties (HR, logistics, scientists, engineers, etc) and they all have a multitude of web apps they use day to day. Some of those don't like Chrome or Firefox. Hell, we even had to support god damn IE11 for way too long before Microsoft thankfully forced its death by discontinuing security support (our cybersecurity people ban anything that doesn't have active vendor support with very few exceptions).

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[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago

My wife was recently in school. Almost all the services she used decline to render unless you're using Chrome.

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[-] JockerBlack@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 year ago
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[-] dvdnet89@lemmy.today 29 points 1 year ago

my company give choice to use Firefox and Chrome and it is mandatory to install those browsers on those computers. But, 95% use Chrome.

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[-] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 year ago

It's "how it feels" or "what it feels like", not "how it feels like"

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[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 year ago

Brave isn't doing much better with captchas lately due to having adblocking built in, google is just on a crusade against anyone blocking stuff.

[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

It's so absurd. It feels like half of the websites out there actively don't want me to visit them.

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 year ago
[-] bobo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

What is the second browser from the bottom on the right?

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago
[-] Nelots@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

As the other two said, Librewolf. It's basically a very privacy-focused fork of Firefox, where just about all privacy settings are on by default.

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