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Warning: You cannot delete posts or comments on Lemmy. It stays up forever, and is in direct violation of GDPR and other national privacy laws. (programming.dev)

submitted 1 year ago by purple_mimosa@programming.dev to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Title says it. Apparently lemmy devs are not concerned with such worldly matters as privacy, or respecting international privacy laws.

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[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 4 points 1 year ago

Message your admin and ask for purging of that post/comment/user.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Then message every federated server's admin.

Then message every federated server's federated servers' amins.

Then ...

The number of surprised Pikachu faces people are displaying here is actually pretty funny now.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

Technically, yes. If the law is of concern, if you're an admin, purging it from your database will be the only extend your power can reach. If privacy is of concern, while purging will not federate, delete/edit will, so edit all comment into gibberish before deleting your own account, and then ask for it to be purged. If that's unacceptable then best not use social media at all.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's a pretty uncharitable interpretation, especially considering Lemmy is developed in and funded in part by the EU, and the "staying online forever" thing is a consequence of Federation (and one they're working on remedying).

If you were worried about this sort of thing, perhaps you should have done your research about the platform before making an account so you could bitch about it here. You definitely don't sound like the voice of reason when you couldn't be arsed to figure this out before you made an account.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So you can't make an account on this platform if you don't agree with how it operates? By that logic no criticism of the platform by its users is possible, which is a great way to ensure it never gets better.

Edit: Let me make this clearer:

Saying in effect "yet you participate in lemmy" to dismiss the OP's concerns is ridiculous. If this logic were taken to its endpoint, there would be no valid criticism of anything lemmy ever did.

Maybe that's your goal, but I would rather not blindly defend lemmy because I like it. I'd rather make it better, and that starts with criticism.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, yes?

If you do not agree to the terms of a service, do not use the service. This is the case for essentially every system ever. You can go complain about it on Reddit or something if you like.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Okay, since you clearly carefully read and completely agree and support eveything in the Lemmy TOS, please tell me where it says it will keep your comments forever.

[-] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying that the terms can't be more transparent, because they absolutely can be.

But if you have become aware of this practice and you continue to participate, you have de facto agreed to it. You can of course agree to the terms and continue to criticize them, but you don't get to sign up for a soccer game and then claim that the rules against using your hands don't actually apply to you. If you don't want to face the consequences of how distributed services like this fundamentally work, don't use them.

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[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It took this person 20 days to post this. They didn't create their account to post it the same day or even the next day, ergo, they figured it out after the fact.

If they really had an issue with stuff like this, why pray-tel weren't they already doing their due diligence to ensure that the service they were signing up for didn't violate the GDPR in ways they didn't like? That seems like a gross oversight by someone clearly incensed by it.

(Also, it continues to be questionable whether it's actually breaking GDPR rules, and even in that regard, it would be individual server admins responsible for enforcing GDPR compliance.)

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[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t agree with that reasoning. It’s entirely possible for someone to be personally accepting of the Fediverse’s privacy issues, but make an intelligent, well informed, coherent critique of them.

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[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It's been a problem for a while. Considering major social media companies have already gotten massive fines from the EU for violating the GDPR, maybe the lemmy devs will put more effort in setting up a deletion system once the EU sends them a fine for breaking the law?