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These the guys that notoriously violated emissions standards and created software to hide the fact from testers? Some pretty spectacular claims you got there. Would be a shame if someone... doubted your reputation.
And let's not forget that they had to create Electrify America which they treat like a red headed step child. They are really invested in EVs. /s
Every car maker did, VW took the blame but the whole industry was lying
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VW has a rich legacy of lying their asses off to every single human that will listen. VW is not a credible source of information about VW.
They're probably using the guy who set the Tesla truck's range
Given that this is VW, I'll wait until someone else verifies this.
"No, no, we only cheated that one time, it's in the past. Let it go. We've had our one lie, now we're perfectly honest!"
Definitely read that in a German accent
I hear what you're saying, but they invested tens of billions in this technology, and they were apparently the first to solve the dendrite issue that prevented SS batteries from being produced to scale. I'm confident they've figured it out. We'll have to wait and see.
Imagine being on a project too big to fail. Someone might have felt inclined to tinker with the data. Happens in the science community, could happen again here.
Plus VW produced SS equipment at scale in the past, but they don't like to talk about it.
So, they are heavily invested in this being a success, both financially and for the prestige of being first? To the point of likely costing someone a lot of money and maybe their job if they hadnt produced results?
The kind of situation where they would be tempted to tweak results a bit, perhaps?
Given that we’re talking about batteries… Remember what phone and laptop manufacturers say about their batteries?
On top of that, these are solid state batteries, not your usual Li-ion batteries with a liquid electrolyte. This is the first time I’ve heard of a large well known company announce they’re using solid state batteries.
That technology has been under development for decades, and it has been applied in some very special devices before, but maybe now it’s finally the time to start large scale production.
Toyota has been telling us solid state batteries are coming soon since … 2012ish 😀
We’re still waiting
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Ok, VW tested it. Now can we have someone else test it so we can get honest results?
I’m sure they self-investigated and found nothing wrong.
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If you believe that, I have a Volkswagen clean diesel I’ll sell you
I hope they try turning the wheels a bit while they do their testing, I'd hate to have another diesel emissions scandal involving explosive batteries and their efficacy.
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Even though this VW is fully electric, the transmission will still find a way to blow up.
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These are lies. The report stated that it held 100% capacity over 100.000.000 charges, but VW knows no-one would believe them, so they adjusted their numbers to look more realistic. /s
/s not necessary. They’ve messed with numbers before and just got a slap on the wrist. Why wouldn’t they lie again?
Still no news on QuantumScape's factory actually going into large scale production.. so still... lab results..
Yeah, I'm always remiss to get excited about battery tech that isn't entering mass production. Until then, it's just something that might be cool in 20 years, but probably not.
Really need to hand it off to other makers. VW is just scandal. It lies on its emissions reports. Has a history of abusing workers. All round a shell of it's former self
Sadly, VW has never strayed far from their roots.
They've always been just a little scummy on the business practices side of things. More than a little scummy during WW2...
They do sometimes have good engineering. Which means fuck all in the face of management who want to cut corners and cheat to make more money.
the 1.4 introduced somewherein the 2000s was their last "good" engine. newer models just suffer from downsizing, constant engine problems after around 80K km.
buy a used honda or a toyota. might even be fuel efficient if you buy a prius for cheap and replace the battery.
or, you know... buy a small car. the 1st gen aygo easily does 40-50mpg and cost 10K BRAND NEW. but then toyota made it a crossover which uses more fuel and is almost 20K.
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Do any companies have morality
I think the bigger a corporation is, the more shitty things it had to do in order to reach that status.
There are some good companies with a moral code, but they'll never become competitive with the big dogs in our current capitalist system.
From what I've seen, some family owned ones do, as they're run for the long term (rather than by CEOs with an average tenure of less than 2 years and who thus are fine with damaging long term prospects for short term profit boosting as its the latter that dictate the size of tbeir bonuses) so don't want to damage the name of the company and sometimes are even run in a way that reflects the owner's morals and principles.
Market listed companies or even private ones with lots of "investors" as owners (such as the bigger startups) almost never have any morality or, in the case of the latter, reflect the typical morality of the kind of people who are good at getting investors, which tends to be the in the area from the "flexible with the truth" salesman all the way to outright fraudster.
Investment nowadays is pretty short term, amoral and fickle, and this ends up indirectly leading to overwhelmingly certain kinds of personalities ending up leading companies and certain management styles being used, both high on the more sociopath end of the spectrum.
Volkswagen was literally founded by the Nazi party and Adolf Hitler himself was heavily involved in designing their first car lol.
Half the companies operating in Germany today were started during Hitler's reign, borne out of his policies.
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great now mass manufacture it
They will. They just finished building the battery manufacturing facility near St. Thomas, ON.
No that's some solid reporting
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