Their OS is actually not bad, it's pretty much stock and the stuff that they add is desirable, like Moto Gestures

Looks like it’s a lot cheaper than the previous one but it’s a regional release right now (India only)

Not even better, it's actually a downgrade from its predecessor in terms of refresh rate and SoC, going from 165 Hz to 144 Hz, and from a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 to a Snapdragon 7 Gen 3 (which also means it drops AV1 hardware decoding, which its predecessor had).

The slower UFS 2.2 or different chargers in the box, would've been forgivable if it did not come with 256GB of non-expandable storage. That alone makes it a deal breaker. Either provide higher internal storage capacity or expandable storage slot.

It might be fine as an upgrade for people on older devices.

Curved screens are gross!

Why is, being owned by Lenovo a con?

Some of their laptops are still great but TBH it really took a dive some years later after post-IBM

Motorola generally supports unlocking bootloaders, unless you buy a specifically locked one from vendors (like AT&T, Verizon, Amazon Prime + Ads versions). Given it hasn't even launched yet, its probably not support yet though?

Recently bought a g84 - it has SD card or Dual Sim capability, along with a headphone jack and stereo speakers. For a $AU350 device it's pretty good - only thing I miss is a telephoto lens.

All the high end phones are flat now so the assembly line for curved screens are throwing a discount.

Hm, phablet, haven't heard that word in a while. Smartphones killed tablets and that word in the process

Curious, what phone are you using? I only see phones 6.4inch and larger. There are hardly any small phones left in the market.

I'm a huge fan of those tbh.
not very practical but they just feel so fucking nice

I had a motorola z3 play a few years ago.

Software quality was pretty good. Security updates were sometimes 3-4 months behind and would combine a few monts when they did get released. When I contacted them about it I was told that not all security patches google issues apply to them. I don't have a way of verifying that.

With "normal" updates to different Android versions they where also slow, but I guess that's normal with most Android vendors.

The biggest bummer with that phone was that they killed the module-feature halfway trough it's livecycle in some regions. (You could snap modules to the back that would add additional stuff like a 360° Camera or a bigger Speaker)

There is an official lineageos build for the z3 play which still gets updated I believe. Even very recent motorola phones get lineageos pretty soon after release. (Not shure tho if that includes all or just the flagships)

Software quality is great. Very near stock with a few great tweaks. Moto gestures are amazing, I use the chop-flashlight constantly and I know lots of people do too.

The updates suck honestly though. Security updates 1-2 months behind and you'll get 2 version upgrades... eventually. Edit: their higher end phones get two, reportedly their budget line gets 1 usually...

Still though I like their phones. But as a techy guy I also know I won't stick with a phone more than 2 years anyhow.

Some of their phones are guaranteed to get 1 OS update. 1.

Sony seems to be a king in the mid range recently. More expensive than Motos and Xiaomis - sure.

Sony Xperia 10 V

• 5Ah battery.
  " Sd card slot.
• headphone jack.
• SD 695 and not some Exynos or Mediateks in Motos
• decent camera.(sideloading a gcam may improve results)
• No Glass back(almost all Motos have this BS).
• No curved edges.
• 1 month back with security updates.
• Some phones, even mid range, get 3 OS updates.

Almost Pixel at home

I can't directly, but most of my coworkers are on Motorola phones, and they all seem to at least like them.

Edit: like them as in not get frustrated with their phone being stupid, and enough to buy a new Motorola phone when they need to chage their phone. No idea about custom ROMs or software support....in fact I probably should have just kept this whole thing in my head....

My experience is dated, but figured I'd share it in case no one else has any input.

I owned a few Motorola Android phones before and after the Google involvement. I think my most recent purchase was 2015.

At that time, they were extremely "pure android" with very few additions beyond the stock experience. The things they added were way ahead of their time - I still think those devices had the best "always on" display implementation to this day, and they did it way before it became a norm.

Their software and update support was rivaling Google at the time, and most other manufacturers were still in the days of 2 years of updates if you're lucky.

They just stopped making phones it seemed like. I ended up moving towards Pixels over the years, but Moto is the one company that would tempt me to switch back. That or maybe HTC but they're dead.

Hope you get a more recent answer - I didn't even realize they were still making phones to be honest.