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Hey guys, what are your thoughts on the existence of extraterrestrial life and the potential involvement of governments in concealing or studying such entities.

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

I definitely believe that aliens exist, but I very much doubt that they have any interest in contacting us. I find that lot of the discussions around aliens fail to take into account the sheer vastness of the Universe.

Inventions of language and writing are the landmark moment here. Before language was invented the only way information could be passed down from ancestors to offspring was via mutations in our DNA. If an individual learned some new idea it would be lost with them when they died. Language allowed humans to communicate ideas to future generations and start accumulating knowledge beyond what a single individual could hold in their head. Writing made this process even more efficient.

So, after millions of years of life on Earth nothing interesting happened. Then when language was invented humans started creating technology, and in a blink of an eye on cosmological scale we went from living in caves to visiting space in our rocket ships. It's worth taking a moment to really appreciate just how fast our technology evolved once we were able to start accumulating knowledge using language and writing.

Now let's take a look at how technology itself has been evolving. Once we discovered radio communication we went through a noisy period where we were leaking a lot of our broadcasts into space, and within a span of a 100 years we started using more efficient communication, and encryption. If somebody intercepted our broadcasts today they would look like noise because they're designed to look like noise.

Our society today is utterly and completely unrecognizable to somebody from even a 100 years ago. If we don't go extinct, I imagine that in another thousand years future humans will be completely alien to us as well.

So the period during which intelligent life would be recognizable to us during its course of evolution is infinitesimally small! The time between creating language and becoming an advanced technological society is measured in thousands of years, while evolution of life is measured in millions of years. The chance of two different intelligences finding each other at exact same stage of development where they might be able to communicate is incredibly unlikely.

I would also imagine that the biological phase for intelligent life is rather short. We're likely to develop human style AIs within a century, and they will be the ones to go out and explore the universe. Meat did not evolve to live in space because we're adapted to gravity wells. An artificial life form could be engineered to thrive in space without ever needing to visit planets. This is the kind of life that's most likely to be prolific in space.

Furthermore, post biological intelligences would likely be running at much faster speeds than our mental processes operate on. What we consider real-time would be what we consider to be geological scales.

For all we know the Universe may be teeming with intelligent life and we just don't recognize it as such. We might be like an ant hill next to a highway looking to see if there are other ant hills around.

I really can't imagine that advanced civilizations would have much they could learn from us. We might be a curiosity at best to them, but it's more likely that they would give as much consideration to us as we do to an ant when we pass it by.

[-] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

Yes, the sophon is causing all the shenanigans happening on earth rn but it decided to ramp up its game.

[-] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Im open to all ideas, if there is something to this UAP phenomena I think it's more complicated than just aliens from another galaxy. Maybe its multiple factions, maybe its way more complicated then we can even comprehend or maybe its all black projects and the greatest case of fraud in world history.

Either way I think it's something we should explore more. Having high level officials say some pretty crazy shit and then just writing it off as crazies in the government seems idk also bad? Maybe we should look into why we have these trained professionals in the military saying these things. And if it's prosaic like mental illness well that needs attention obviously and if it's any of the other things well the same answer.

Idk why we just write this shit off conspiracy or not. if we dealt with it and embarrassed the liars or helped the sick wouldn't that be good?

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -2 points 9 months ago

Yes. I see no logical reason why life didn’t form somewhere else.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee -4 points 9 months ago

Duh. Have you not seen the mountains of high definition video of the alien craft buzzing around our atmosphere?

Nobody demands this level of evidence for the asteroid belt. They tell us there’s an asteroid belt, we just believe it. No problem. Big ring of rocks.

But there’s hundreds of high definition videos every day of people’s cell phones recording machines floating in the sky, literal news stories of these things, pilots, government officials, scientists all talking about them, FLIR, radar, visual, etc data and we’re all like “Nah bro it’s a spontaneous conspiracy of strangers to perpetuate a hoax across multiple continents, centuries, and walks of life”

The reason is simple: we’re in denial because it’s absolutely terrifying.

Why do these tens of thousands of people participate in the Alien Hoax Conspiracy? Why, for attention of course.

Please don’t understand me wrong. I am saying the claim that aliens are a “hoax” implies the largest and most well-coordinated conspiracy ever theorized to exist. If there is a conspiracy to perpetuate the alien hoax, it dwarfs every other conspiracy many orders of magnitude over.

Yes there’s fucking aliens. Each and every one of us has seen more evidence for aliens than we’ve seen of the existence of Osama Bin Laden, the Harlem Globetrotters, or spear fishing.

“Oh all those spear fishing videos are all CGI”

Yeah whatever bro. All those vast networks of people just cranking out CGI footage of aliens on a daily basis. You know, for the lulz. Gimme a break.

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