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I know the real answer is reddit but I really don't want to go back now that I've already grown used to life without it. I was hoping for Lemmy to be a viable substitute but it isn't. I can see how this place is wonderful for the certain type of person but that person is not me. My experience during the past 6+ months has been a net negative and I'm pretty much ready to move on. I just don't know where else to go.

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[-] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 months ago

What made your experience negative ?

  • I'm on an large instance which doesn't federate with Grad, so I don't see the Right-winger playing to be leftist by supporting right wing dictators

  • Tons of communities don't get that much political beside the respect basic human rights and sometimes comment the news

  • Even with the European election ongoing, I don't see much political discussion on European communities

So may-be try more "casual/fun" communties than the political one.

If you use the "local feed" it may be worth checking another instance. I heard good stuff of Blahaj Lemmy which as no downvote and act mostly as a safe/relax space for queer but is open to non queer people

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

I feel your pain. The fediverse has been disappointing because of the extreme bias and propaganda.

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I can't tell if you're the problem or if it is Lemmy.

I don't think there is an alternative as of now.

However: I think Lemmy will grow. As of now it doesn't due to the limitations of the software developers... Which is my personal little pet peeve. But it's currently in the process of diversifying itself. New projects like Piefed and others are being developed to tackle the current issues and limitations that don't get addressed by the Lemmy developers. I think there is a good chance that Lemmy is going to change in the near to mid future.

(And I don't get all the drama and political arguments anyways. It doesn't contribute anything to my life discussing world news/politics and it's bound to be negative... I'd like some more nice personal projects, soldering electronics, Linux communities and maybe posts about woodworking or lewd stories. Arguing about politics is a valid thing to do, but also boring in my perspective and this place is full of it.)

[-] FoD@startrek.website 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I agree and started putting effort into Mastodon. It took a week or two of filtering and browsing to find users and content but I've definitely found a more engaging base of content to interact with that is nice.

I was an engaged redditor who switched 100% to Lemmy and I do not feel quite satisfied with the comments and content.

I'll stick around, but I find myself on Mastodon and using Ground News more often.

Btw I have comments in my history of how frustrated I was about finding content on Mastodon, but suddenly it clicked after I spent a bunch of time on it. Not a raving endorsement but ultimately I do enjoy it.

Another side note, I was looking for some top users to follow and some have 10k followers, cool. Then I find some federated threads accounts with millions and realize how small we are in comparison. I know why, and I understand it, but it's truth that small user bases have less ideas.

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[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 7 points 8 months ago

I thought we have quite a diversity here with extreme right wing on hexbear, extreme left wing on lemmygrad, center with lemmy.world, (clasic) liberalism on dbzer0, and everything between like blahaj, beehaw, redhat, slrpnk, etc.

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Hexbear are not right-wing in the slightest. They're basically Lemmygrad but with even more shitposting.

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[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

I don't know much about hexbear, but why's it extreme right?

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[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Reddit: everybody sucking Trump or Biden’s dick

Lemmy: everybody sucking Putin or Xi Jinping’s dick

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I too enjoy that Lemmy has a more global audience and isn't as USA centric.

[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oh it’s still incredibly USA centric, at least as far as the content shared and discussed in English is concerned. The userbase just gets their biased talking points from Russian bot farms instead of US media outlets lol. I guess that counts as more global.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I've been pleased with the amount of content from non-English languages even if my ability to parse it is pretty poor.

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I'm not sure of better alternatives, only different. Mastodon or even Threads might be your solution. I also took a look at the comment history to get a sense of what you mean and I think I get it since I also get a fair share of negative interactions.

I think it's actually because of Lemmy's size that you get some pretty fringe views on here. Heck, if anything, the diversity you seek might mostly be all the views in-between that get drown out by the loudest fringe views. I'm sure there plenty of us lurking, since it's so exhausting engaging with lemmings at times. I'm by no means a moderate, but simply trying to defend a news source as legitimate can feel like a disheartening chore.

Anyway, I don't really know where to go for that and if you find out, I'd love to know. I don't necessarily agree with you on your views, whatever they may be, but I certainly can agree that we need a little wider range of views (and perhaps a bit more civility when someone expresses a different perspective).

[-] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

I don't even mind the fringe views. I even switched instances to one that federates with lemmygrad because of that. I know there are a diverse group of people here but many of them don't comment because you get bullied for it. You can reliably guess which types of comment are the most popular ones and which ones are completely missing.

Another thing I have an issue with here is the fact that for the most part it seems that what is keeping this group together is not common ideas or goals but the common hatred towards an outgroup.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

If it makes you feel better, I don't particularly hate an outgroup (like reddit) and I'm not really here for that reason (although I like the app options here too). Maybe that's a minority view, but hate is just too emotionally draining for me. Maybe I stick around because those Trek and Linux nerds won me over, haha.

But yeah, maybe if you like hearing folks over at Lemmygrad (or even... Hexbear?!) federation is still your best bet because you'll never get that on the more mainstream sources. If it's a bad experience, maybe you need to tweak your approach. Just brainstorming though, I really don't know the ideal platform for open discourse.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 8 months ago

Imo it is fine as long as you stay away from Lemmy.ml, Lemmygrad and Hexbear.

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