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submitted 7 months ago by nehal3m@sh.itjust.works to c/fuck_cars@lemmy.ml

The person on the left is carrying bags, the one in orange is a delivery driver and a couple of people are wearing backpacks. Aside from car brained, Damaris is also blind.

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[-] GTG3000@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

Three entirely different use-cases there. Commuting, logistics and... Well, the port thing is also logistics but it kinda shouldn't intersect with a city downtown?

Not to mention that nowhere are cars completely restricted, you can have professional trucks and such.

Now, does everyone need to own their own car to move pianos, or should it just be a piano-moving service you hire the one time a year you need a piano moved?

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

A truck carrying freight ≠ a person driving home groceries. Groceries that typically fill up a car's trunk just for 2-3 people; a bicycle isn't carrying that. You'd need a rickshaw-like cart hooked onto it. They do exist though, for passengers, so making one for personal cargo loads is doable.

I wouldn't want to do any of that in winter, though. Snow, ice, and sub-zero wind-chill (plus the further cooling effect while moving) are not when anyone should ever be on a bicycle.

Also, driving to a larger grocery store is non-negotiable for us because they're the ones who stock the lower-demand allergy-safe foods. Guess how much a corn allergy sucks in America, on top of others. While most allergies and medical conditions are rarer than not, they are a huge problem.

Didn't get me started on commuting - and youn literally can't remote-work a labor job. Imagine having to make a 30+ minute car commute on a bicycle on top of a 9+ hour day.

So while yes, fuck cars, bicycles are not anywhere close to a magic bullet. Our entire civilization needs a comprehensive bottom-up overhaul that addresses every problem simultaneously, since most of them are interconnected.

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[-] dumbass@leminal.space -2 points 7 months ago

I'm all for way less cars on the road, but, what do all these people with some form of physical disability that limits their movement abilities? I rarely ever see this brought up in the debate, what form of independent travel can these people use in a carless society that won't be impeded by their physical issues? Something that gives them the freedom to live their life and not rely on some form of ride sharing experience that takes their freedoms from them?

We can't leave people behind for a quick solution.

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