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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by penquin@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Like the title says, are there any EVs that just have a Bluetooth radio and that's it? Like a normal car, not a smartphone on wheels? If not, do you all think that this will actually happen at some point? This is the main reason why I can't (and will never) buy an EV. I like to have actual buttons everywhere on my car. I think those massive tablets on these cars with all the touch buttons are very dangerous. I like an "entertainment system" that only connects to my phone with either a headphone jack ~~of~~ or Bluetooth. It's a car, not a PC.

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[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 7 points 7 months ago

I have a 2016 Nissan Leaf. It's a short range commuter car, it makes a great second car for a family but it's no good if it's your only car.

I live in a left-hand drive country that gets heaps of used imports from Japan (who is also left-hand drive), so they are cheapish and easy to get YMMV,. The entertainment system is not touch screen, it has physical buttons including controls on the steering wheel. I'm not sure if it can phone home since it's no longer in a supported country. We use Bluetooth for music and that's it as the Nissan Connect stuff doesn't work here.

[-] DarthYoshiBoy@kbin.social 6 points 7 months ago

The Nissan Connect stuff doesn't work anymore for any of the 2016 Leafs, they used a form of cell service that is no longer in operation.

I swapped a nice Kenwood head unit into my Leaf for a couple hundred dollars. It maintains the backup camera, steering wheel controls, and the built in USB port while offering a larger screen and touch screen controls for Android Auto or Apple Car Play if you want them. It's awesome and I highly recommend it for anyone who wants a short range commuter car.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 6 points 7 months ago

That's what I tell people who are just pure "anti" EV. No one should be anti EV, that's a stupid take IMO. (Even the things about the environmental cost, I mean, fair, except their solution is to continue to keep destroying the planet by burning gas/diesel so you know they don't actually care about that issue).

EVs are perfect for commuter cars and around town cars, which I'd say is 95+% of driving for most people. They just don't want to admit it. Their vision of how they drive is wild and free on an open road, but most of them are just going to walmart, to work, for groceries, and around town. Since most of America is 2+ cars per house, it makes absolute sense for one to be an EV and the other to be an ICE/hybrid.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

EVs are perfect for commuter cars and around town cars, which I’d say is 95+% of driving for most people.

The real "EVs"^1^ -- that is, e-bikes -- are even more perfect for that use case, though.

(^1^ Because most electric vehicles sold are, in fact bicycles, not cars)

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Don't know about your answer specially but can get EV conversion kits that provide the hardware to turn older cars into EVs. Of course you really have to know what you're doing or know someone who does and the kits themselves are often as expensive as mid range vehicles.

[-] Melobol@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Those "cheap" Asian EV's look like bare bone vehicles. But you get what you are paying for.
For once I wouldn't suggest to buy an old first gen EV. They are unpredictable, and have a lot of different issues.

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Fiat 500e first gen and Nissan volt first gen.

Pretty much it unless diy

[-] Philosofuel@futurology.today 6 points 7 months ago

I tried an VW ID3 this weekend, the software was low key, it mostly relied on you having Apple Car or it's android equivalent.

[-] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Just rented a KIA Niro and wouldn't have been able to tell it was an EV from the interior. HSS Bluetooth but I usually opt for Android auto.

[-] khepri@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

The old Chevy Sparks are basically golf carts with 4 doors and permission to drive in the roads. They are the least "techy" EVs I've seen in person as they are really just a battery swap with the minimally-appointed ICE version of the car, which is very sparse on the electronic doodads.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Hopefully someday.

[-] RiceChex@beehaw.org 3 points 7 months ago

I think that this suggestion is a bit more extreme than what you're hoping for but the Carice tc2 is an all electric car with all the extras and features of a car from the 1960's

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