Green Day used to be anti-establishment, now they are the establishment.
American Idiot is almost 20 years old and the message hasn't changed. Do these people just have zero media literacy?
Yes. They also think Rage Against the Machine “got political”.
RATM.
Remember when Tom Morello had to slap down Paul Ryan? https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/tom-morello-paul-ryan-is-the-embodiment-of-the-machine-our-music-rages-against-246033/
chef’s kiss
Morello is a crazy talented guitarist and overall nice guy but he’s also really intelligent and educated which tees up idiots for easy humiliation. He rocks in all the ways.
Tom Morello went to Harvard and got a PoliSci degree.
Ah, yes. The far away time when "Far Right" just meant ideologically conservative and not the wannabe brownshirts. So long ago, 2012.
A simpler time.
Take the power back.
Also, WAKE UP
That is my second favourite thing to happen on the internet ever.
Yes
"Since when did punk rock talk about politics "
Ummmm..... pretty sure that's a defining point.
Says the party who dances to rage against the machine while literally fighting for the machine
New band idea: Rage for the machine, a band for moody conservatives who like licking boots
Kid Rock has entered chat.
Punk band upsets establishment. News at 11.
I don't man, I don't consider them punk punk but pop punk, but still doesn't change your statement.
I'm still surprised punk hasn't made a come back. We are dying of old age and this is the right environment for punk to flourish.
The least punk thing is to gatekeep the genre.
The day Trump was elected I was excited for a new wave of anti-government human-rights protest music. The best we got was “This Is America”.
Edit: I appreciate the few examples you’ve offered but I was thinking of the movements of the 60s and 80s. It wasn’t just the hippie peace love anti war music or rap music, it was poetry, fiction, movies, documentaries. It was the culture around the people rising up to protest their government. Now any shmoe can tweet at the president.
Not punk but industrial. Though KMFDM has always been political. But there's a few tracks on the new album that are far less subtle than usual.
Also forgot to point out that punk was a product of its time. And it's environment. Very much a DIY ethic. Which lent to its sound. DIY today is going to sound a lot different. Unless people are going to ape the sound without any of the influence.
Even many of the iconic punkers got tired of it and moved on when new things became available. As mentioned John Lyden AKA Johnny rotten. Left the pistols for Public Image limited. Last I heard Jell-O was still trying to get into California politics?
TL;Dr: Long, rambling old man shit incoming.
You're absolutely right. The DIY landscape is so incredibly different. Now you can get an electric guitar with reasonable QC and an amp with modeling and a hundred presets that plugs directly into your computer to record. There's loads of free lessons online that show people how to play instruments. There are tabs for almost every song put out by any semi-popular artist so you don't have to try to reverse engineer them anymore. There are backing tracks. We didn't have any of that shit. We had a solid state amp with two channels, one of which was poorly distorted.
And I'm here for it. It's not my dad's punk. It's not my punk and pop punk. It belongs to new people and I'm excited for them to look back at it the way I look back at the bands that excited me when I was a kid. They'll have new genres built upon the shoulders of the ones I listened to, which stood on the shoulders of those that came before.
I grew up in (what I perceive as) the heyday of punk, but mostly ignored it. Lately I've been tempted to take a closer look at some of those old punk bands I always heard about back in the day.
Those kids were right. Not so much as adults anymore some of them. John Lydon in particular having become a bit of a disappointment. But it's still a fun era and easy to listen through. Seeing as it really encompassed about a 5 to 6 year span.
Post Punk/ dance Punk is having a bit of a Resurgence again though. Lots of good new stuff coming out. Though not as much political necessarily.
Never ceases to amaze me when “fans” of a band appear to completely ignore their lyrics. Are these people who only know “Longview” and “Time of your Life?”
I loved when Republicans were screaming at rage against the machine to stop making political music, like... what machine do you think they're raging against? The mcdonalds icecream machines?
Cause the Hooooook brings you baack
I’ve had times in my life where I’m oblivious to lyrics, and times when I’m really tuned in to them. So I can see how people get carried along with the music regardless of the lyrics.
It’s still funny when people make realizations like this though.
What year is it? Are they going to be offended by SouthPark next?
cuntservatives have been outraged by SOMETHING literally every year I have existed on this planet, and my first console controller only had one button...
Still remember my mother freaking out over a satanic panic and throwing away all of my action figures because I was apparently worshipping satan by playing with my Ninja Turtles.
They think the Olympic games were somehow against them too and got triggered. Conservatives are the biggest freaking snowflakes
Did these conservatives miss American Idiot, or are they just being reactionary as they so often are?
This is the same group of people who (somehow) thought Killing in the Name Of was aligned with their views, and now make comments like "I liked RATM until they got so political."
Most of them are just peanut brains with the Goldfish attention span who only like the sound but never listen to the lyrics. Hell one of the local grocery stores around here in their mix has a few tracks by the stones in particular give me shelter. It's an iconic song. But most people have no idea what the lyrics are. It's sort of surreal to walk through the store listening to the singer scream out rape and murder it's just a shot away. It's a fun sort of irony I suppose.
So Green Day does the most Green Day thing ever and the MAGA crowd loses their minds. Who are the snowflakes again?
Wtf were they expecting? Like, it's green day, they've always been pretty forward about their politics, and it's been in the lyrics the entire time.
Seriously. I don't even listen to Green Day, and even I know that this isn't new territory for them. Did these people not know about American Idiot and who that was about?
Trump supporters are the American idiot
Imo, this is the coolest thing Green Day has done since "Nimrod"
"Conservatives freaking out that a popular pop punk band aren't actually right wing psychopaths?! News at 11"
Again, they did exactly this last new year.
https://www.newsweek.com/green-day-maga-trump-new-years-eve-1856855
I chuckled heartily earlier today when I saw a post on the front page of the R-word site that was posted to the conservative sub. It was a picture of the band holding up a mask of Trump with idiot written on it and a title along the lines of "After Trump assassination attempt, Green Day holds up head of Donald Trump".
Literally, it was just a mask of Trump with something like "Idiot" written on it from a band that quite literally is known for criticizing the government (understatement).
They were making it sound like it was an implicit threat to Trump and hateful rhetoric inciting further violence.
I swear there must be some brain damage involved in those types of conclusions.
Meanwhile there were several effigies of Obama with a noose around their necks
no no no, you see that was just a metaphor for states rights.
What a bunch of snowflakes.
Oh do conservatives not like a bisexual man singing about how bush is a war criminal anymore?
ROFL!! Apparently the folks complaining haven't actually ever listened to Green Day. Though the severed Trump head at the concert was probably a bit much.
It was a mask, "severed trump head" is an extreme and inaccurate description.
maga chuds live on extreme and inaccurate descriptions.
Green Day drew controversy among conservatives during their first U.S. gig this week after changing a lyric to anti-MAGA.
I don't really see the controversy honestly. Band modifies their own lyrics in a way magas don't like. Magas whine like the snowflakes they are, rest of world shrugs. (And I think they have done this at least one other time recently.)
I was kind of amazed that neither this Dropkick Murphy's speech nor this Dropkick Murphy's album, nor especially this song from that album, seems to have generated any anger from that crowd. They seem like exactly the sort of band that magas might just have assumed were "on their side."
I'm not sure the Dropkick Murphy's are a band most folks have ever heard of. I think the only song of theirs I've heard someone else play was Shipping Up to Boston. It was being used for a commercial. Great band with great music, but I don't think they ever hit mainstream.
It's almost like they have never actually looked at the lyrics of a green day song.
Awww. Cry