Its also proof to the dipshits we don't hate masculinity. We hate toxic masculinity. In fact, we find Tim Walz brand of masculinity refreshing and delightful
I like my men like I like my coffee: refreshing, delightful, and able to provide a sick burn
On and off-carpet
I like my men like I like my coffee
"Ground up and stored in the freezer."
This right here.
Being a man isn't about strength, or appearance, or body count, or power over others.
It's about accountability, honesty, resilience (NOT bottling everything down), and meaningful effort.
Yeah it might not be the most physically attractive all the time, but I see my purpose in life to make sure we all have better so that we can all do better.
Walz joining the VP has really given me a new sense of courage I've been lacking lately, and I'm really happy to see others recognizing it to.
Being a man isn't about strength
One of the few things that I disagree with in your statement and, really, it's down to semantics. The are more types of strength than physical strength. There's strength of character, there's emotional strength, and more. But, like physical strength, all of these can be "exercised", for example contemplating ethical quandaries can strengthen one's character and ethical self-identity.
While much more abstract, I do find "strength" in this usage part of my model of masculinity.
Now, about this:
Yeah it might not be the most physically attractive all the time,
I guarantee that to someone, you absolutely are. Remember that practically noone just "sees" another human being, they perceive them. Our visual perception is NOT raw data. It is filtered by the context, real or imagined, that we associate with the person that we're looking at. It's the combination of all this in a non-straightforward manner that will impact how physically attractive someone finds us.
but I see my purpose in life to make sure we all have better so that we can all do better.
You know what I was saying above? Yeah. This is exactly the kind of thing will influence how you are perceived, even visually.
Walz joining the VP has really given me a new sense of courage I've been lacking lately, and I'm really happy to see others recognizing it to.
I'm sorry that you've been feeling less courageous lately. The world can fuck us all up from time to time. If it gets too severe, I'd definitely recommend seeing a therapist, if you are comfortable and able to do so (and aren't already).
or body count
Aww, man. Are you telling me my Cawl O Doodie K/D ratio won't impress the girls‽‽‽
/j
I read somewhere else a woman who said, "Walz represents all the dads we used to have but lost to Fox News."
God damn, that's heart wrenching.
Maybe that can help counter the nostalgia and hate that drives Trump's demographic
Even down to a caveman level, the role of a strong man was to be the protector of the tribe/family. Using your strength to protect others is what makes a strong man.
Inflicting your insecurities on others and feeding your ego by attacking vulnerable people are the actions of a bully, not a strong man.
Coincidently the latter are the traits of a strongman though. So remember kids, be a strong man not a strongman.
As much as I think a "would you like to have a beer with the candidates?" is a stupid way of measuring things...I wouldn't mind having a beer with these candidates.
Especially because Trump and Vance would roofie your beer
Then leave you with the bill
Then tell everyone you didn’t show up and they don’t even drink beer.
"I don't even know beer"
*Brett Cavanaugh tears intensify*
Hey now, let's be honest. Vance would roofie the bar stool.
and Trump would just... "your beer? Haven't seen it. There's just MY two glasses of beer here. A great beer, the greatest. My uncle invented beer, Fred Budweiser Trump. Great IQ, very good genes!"
They'd show up late, drink too much too fast, try to order off your tab, ramble about bullshit conspiracy theories and talk over you at every opportunity, act like a sleeze to the waitress and get too handsy. Then they'd want to play pool but refuses to rack, blames the cue or someone in their field of view for their bad shots but does anything to try and distract you, hits the ball off the table multiple times but tries to get constant do-overs, claims every time you hit it's a scratch and quote obscure rules, at least once they try to sneak one of their balls in the pocket when it's your turn, when they lose they just toss their cue onto the pool table or lean it against instead of putting it away, and spends the next 45 minutes constantly saying how they should have won...
I need to hear more about this date.
Walz says he has given up alcohol entirely after his DUI years ago. But I bet Harris is super fun once she gets into the box of wine in the fridge.
Harris seems like she enjoys a reasonably priced bottle of wine that delivers on flavor and novelty. Waltz seems like he's sipped some of the world's most expensive wines but buys boxed wine to prove that you can party on a budget.
Honestly, I see Walz as a strong and empathetic dad figure, and Harris as a firm but joyful mom figure for a lot of Americans who had shit parental figures growing up.
They make an excellent team.
While Trump is the weird granddad who really went off the deep end, and Vance the creepy uncle who you don't trust leaving alone in your home with your couch.
I see Harris as that goofy kind hearted aunt. She might not connect with you all the time, but you know she means well. Walz is definitely more like the dad that Americans wish they grew up with.
I don't treat politicians like family members. I'm not interested in that.
I want boring politics. I want them to not fucking be in the news every time they sneeze. I want kids to get lunches. I want Americans to be able to live a comfortable life. I want immigrants to become Americans and conservative terrorism to get fucked.
I don't want a cool aunt figure and I'm not interested in putting any of these politicians as a hat slogan or a flag.
Fuck Trump and I'm voting for Harris. But don't get it twisted...
this is my analysis of the running candidates right now, but Kamala is the urbanite minority runner, walz is the rural white runner. Kamala has lots of experience in urban environments and dealing with large companies and corpos, walz has a lot of experience supporting individuals and families and has many years in rural Midwestern politics.
kamala is more visibly younger, walz is visibly older, but they're both essentially 60. Kamala picks up the votes of the younger millenials and gen z's while walz picks up the votes of the gen x and boomer populations who resonate with his values.
Kamala should represent basically every large population center, cali, new york, probably not chicago, but they'll probably vote for her anyway, etc...
Walz is basically courting the entire midwestern vote by being midwestern, as well as rural, more moderate/center leaning voters.
This is quite literally the avengers team of the democratic party right now. I don't think you could have made a better team.
'MAGA choked up, struggling with Walz's manhood'
How's that gag order treating ya, Donnie?
Maga chokes on Tim's manhood
Tim has been a great choice.
Why is manhood even an issue?
I'll probably regret this, but for shits and giggles, I'm going to try and give an earnest answer here.
Let's first assume that "manhood" is a thing. That there are people in the world who define themselves by gender roles, however those manifest. It might be biology, appearance, dress, behavior, profession or any number of other ways that someone chooses to manifest a gender role.
So if we accept that, there's a lot of ways of approaching what western society might call "manhood": machismo, aggression, breadwinning, vinyl collecting, having the best lawn in the suburbs, etc. This is where things get dicey, in my opinion. The right is full of angry men who feel slighted by a society that they feel increasingly has no place for them. In some ways they are right: men are less likely to have education past high school, less likely to have modern workforce skills and less likely to have their formerly tolerated bullshit accepted anymore. This has lead to the rise of what people often refer to as "toxic masculinity". People who lean into traits like misogyny or racism and follow leaders who make them feel tough, like they are in the driver's seat again.
I think the appeal of Walz is that he gives at least the appearance of another path. He's a man, no question. He hunts, he fishes, he works on his pickup truck, he coached football, and he taught social studies. But he's also championed reproductive rights, LGBT causes, and even took a fairly light hand during the BLM protests in 2020 (which can be easily twisted, unfortunately). He's the kind of pro-labor and pro-rural progressive that started to get marginalized in the 2000s, was on it's death bed when the Tea Party ascended and that MAGA seemed to finally bury.
So yes, manhood is an issue because that seems to be a major part of the ethos that is following the alt-right. But Walz is a man that a lot of men can see themselves in: men who work, love their families and who want government to support their lives, not some fantasy they wish existed. Government that does infrastructure, public safety, boring stuff that we used to not have to think about. And because he's done all those "manly" things he feels like the old fashioned man that a lot on the alt-right claim to want back, while showing them that old fashioned man is not what they think it is.
So there it is. I admire Walz. He's not perfect, but neither am I. I hope he doesn't disappoint me.
Because, maga manhood is racist, mysognist, hateful and toxic.
We need more good male role models. People with tender hearts and rough hands.
I also love that the weirdest thing about him (word choice intentional) is his preferred beverage of diet Mountain Dew, which Vance also drinks instead of coffee.
Looking forward to the Republican who badmouths Walz for being a football coach, only to be reminded of Tommy Tuberville.
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