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Beware of security risks! (lemmy.sdf.org)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org to c/memes@lemmy.ml

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[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 113 points 3 months ago

Seems more like globalism is to blame. They were from a Taiwanese company but manufactured in Hungary.

Guessing the source of the pagers didn't matter at all and Israel probably intercepted a shipment to plant bombs in them themselves. Lithium batteries can ignite, but they don't just explode like that. There were bombs put in those pagers, be it by Israel or whoever else, coordinated as a targeted operation.

[-] DNOS@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 months ago

So it wasn't just here in Italy that they tried to make us believe it was just a cyber attack... On national tv they brought up an old man so called expert who said they probably disabilitated overheating protection remotely and somehow magically the battery exploded causing that damage ... I don't know if I need to interpret this as an attempt at psychological terrorism or just one of the usual diminishing policy in favor of Israel To be fair they mentioned the probability of an actual bomb but in my opinion such an obvious error must not be carried over especially world wide 😱 It gives me chills that the news industry could make such big errors also while talking about politics crime health ...

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 months ago

You can absolutely make a lipo battery "explode" by overheating it by drawing too much power. But it's the kind of explosion where it spews hot gas and maybe catches on fire. You'll definitely get hurt, but that's about it.

You can do MUCH worse by overcharging it. (note the size of that battery). There will eventually be a fireball if you overcharge it and keep overcharging it when it's already swollen to a balloon. But you generally don't charge stuff while it's in your pocket.

These were actual killing-people-explosions. Lipo batteries don't do that.

[-] DNOS@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

Yeah I know i think that everyone that has ever heard of Lipo fires and dangers with a basic Google search can distinguish between a lipo fire and a high explosive detonating ... Lipo are more like a jet of flames ( I had one in my 6 m^3 room wasn't nice but I'm here) yeah contained what you want It could be a bang, but to some extent... I don't know what you have seen but videos shown in my local news are impossible to explain with lipo fires ...

Can't find a link sorry

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[-] vonxylofon@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

errors

Assuming it was totally inadvertent. Totally.

[-] 0xD@infosec.pub 8 points 3 months ago

Those people are idiots. You always need to check the credentials and history of people telling you something, and even then - if they're an expert in security they may know nothing about electronics or explosives or how secret agencies operate.

And yes, news can be really unreliable - on purpose or just out of mistakes. Gotta always keep that in mind as well, but it also reeeally depends on the particular media company.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago

Lipo's can absolutely burn your house down, but only while overcharging. Igniting a battery while you're walking around with it will at most burn your pants down, not kill you.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Exactly. I remember early days of smartphones before a lot of the safety precautions we have today were implemented, where we saw tons of videos of batteries spontaneously combusting. They expand, there's a pop, and then a small burst of flame that will ignite anything it touches, like your pants, tables they're sitting on while charging, etc. You can get pretty badly burned if this happens while it's in your pocket.

It's just that the videos that have come out of these pagers shows an actual explosion, as if they had been packed with C4. Enough to instantly kill some people with them on their person and harm adjacent passerbys.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Yeah as in BURN DOWN and not as in EXPLODE WITH FORCE AND SHRAPNEL.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Lithium batteries can ignite, but they don't just explode like that.

These pagers don't use lithium battery.

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[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 49 points 3 months ago

Can someone show me on a map where "the west" starts?

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 months ago

It's less a geographical or hemispheric distinction, and more a political one.

This page on imperial core is good.

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[-] forrcaho@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Here: https://xkcd.com/503/

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 months ago

It's the big blob of central capitalism from when colonialism started to now. It's where the genocidal whites live, hence why Israel plays in the European soccer league.

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[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 months ago

A western colony primarily made of western settlers and completely aligned with imperial core countries is western.

It's a political term rather than geographic. Same reason why Australia isn't part of the Global South despite being in the south, because it's controlled by colonizers.

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[-] Toribor@corndog.social 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Right in the middle of Berlin.

(This information may be 30 years out of date)

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[-] Album@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 months ago

It really just proves the point though. Hardware at time of production is a major security risk and any side needs to be aware and protect themselves.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago

It's just projection as always

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[-] Sauvandu60@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 months ago

USA and it's allies are just shoot themselves in the foot with this terror action.

https://x.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1836626658759184595

Posts from Chinese social media, stating factories are running overnight shifts to accommodate huge orders of communication devices from the Middle East.

A requirement from clients, is that the whole manufacturing process must be done inside China.

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[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago

I'm out of the loop here.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 84 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hezbollah uses pagers for communication. Israel intercepted shipments of pagers and rigged them with bombs. Then, an unspecified amount of time later, Israel detonated them during the day, yanno, when people would be out and about in public places. Thousands of bombs went off across Lebanon and killed and injured children, elderly people, and adults.

Of course, mainstream media is trying to pretend that Israel didn't potentially commit what should be considered a warcrime while assholes on social media are spinning this as a masterfully precise and accurate strike that didn't have a considerable amount of collateral (I've literally seen someone say "only people with something to hide would be around a pager in this day and age" verbatim), and that anyone injured or killed was a member of Hezbollah.

Like, what if one of those had been on a plane when it went off?

When ISIS plants bombs on people and detonates them in public places then it's a bad thing. Israel does it and everyone stands, claps and tips everyone with $100% bills.

Edit: I honestly wonder if it's only a matter of time before some IDF or Mossad shithead hijacks a plane and flies it into the Burj Khalifa.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 32 points 3 months ago

Not a war crime; terrorism. Hezbollah is a political organization.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Once again, it needs to be noted that this entire operation was designed to assassinate one guy. The part of the pager shipment was an order made by the Iranian consulate in Lebanon.

Since the Israelis didn't know which pager was going to the ambassador, they just rigged them all to explode. Then everyone who got caught in the crossfire was labeled "Hezbollah" after the fact.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

...That does not, in fact, make it any better.

That makes it even more terrorism.

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[-] RubicTopaz@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

This pissed off alot of libs lmao

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[-] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Just to correct, the pagers were made by a taiwanese company, not chinese.

[-] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 3 months ago

The pagers were licensed by the Taiwanese company. Officially produced in Europe by Hungarian company BAC. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/taiwan-firm-denies-making-pagers-used-lebanon-explosions-rcna171594. But BAC a shell company so the rabbit hole continues.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

More recent update, all the actual manufacturers were shell companies wholly operated by Mossad.

[-] abbenm@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 months ago

I think the meme is suggesting that they were literally made by "the West" but maybe I'm missing something

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Taiwan is part of the capitalist core which is basically synonymous with the west. Honorary west you could say, at least until its strategic significance drops and it will get abandoned by USA.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Is this what happens after being vaccinated? /s

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