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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by jordanlund@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

We've had some trouble recently with posts from aggregator links like Google Amp, MSN, and Yahoo.

We're now requiring links go to the OG source, and not a conduit.

In an example like this, it can give the wrong attribution to the MBFC bot, and can give a more or less reliable rating than the original source, but it also makes it harder to run down duplicates.

So anything not linked to the original source, but is stuck on Google Amp, MSN, Yahoo, etc. will be removed.

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[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

www.amputatorbot.com

Especially useful on mobile. Simply paste/copy to fix amp links. Free, no ads.

e: formatting

[-] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 6 hours ago

Great tip! Thank you!

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

As someone who raised this issue, I want to thank the mods for addressing this. The MBFC bot aside, I think this will also cut down on dupes, as I’ve seen numerous times where an article was shared twice- once from the OG source and then another version from MSN or Yahoo news.

And for users who want to check the source of something, it does make it easier to fact check for yourself.

Who knows, it might even slow down certain profligate posters who obviously just take every link in a news aggregator and share it (and then brush off every comment with a “I didn’t write the article…) 😉

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

People usually link to sites like MSN and Yahoo because the content is no longer locked behind a paywall. 🤷‍♂️

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Many of the articles I’ve seen are not in fact behind a paywall but obviously YMMV

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

Accounts have been spamming MSN, amp and yahoo links?

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago
[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 1 day ago

And yet the mod log is empty of that. If was spamming there'd be more than 1 in the last week.

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

I said they were profligate in their posting, not spamming. Say, for instance, users with 1.6k posts in around 60 days. Personally I feel they have been spamming, but the mods think differently and that’s fine. However they are pretty universally regarded as posting and commenting to an unhealthy degree.

[-] jhymesba@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Are you saying it ain't illegal if the cops don't catch you doing it? 🤣

[-] OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Can we please just get rid of the propaganda bot instead? It's bad at what it claims to do, and does nothing to stem the flow of disinformation here.

If you really want users to think about their sources, then you should have a dedicated source discussion thread for every post.

The bot actively and objectively makes Lemmy a worse platform. I've personally stopped recommending Lemmy to friends, and the bot is the top reason. (The other reason is the power users who astroturf the various news communities with their pet issues. Hopefully that will change after the election.)

[-] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 day ago

For a second I thought you were talking about our favorite high-traffic poster, who is now queue flooding 15 articles a day.

[-] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Which one is the favorite? I'm starting to see more and more voices that aren't quite as mainstream (yet) as Lemmy would like, so I think the diversity of thought and opinion is awesome.

Which one? There's a bunch of them. Although I suspect that a lot of them are the same people using alt accounts.

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

So the reason you don’t recommend Lemmy is a bot that you can block if you don’t like it? That seems a little much, IMO

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago

I guess I’m confused. Why don’t you just block it? What offends you about it so much that you not only don’t want to see it, you don’t want anyone else to see it?

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 8 hours ago
[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee -1 points 7 hours ago

You know how I can tell someone is full of bullshit. When they start claiming they’re talking for everyone. From the comment you linked to:

show callous indifference to how everyone in the community sees it…

That’s patently untrue and weakens every argument you have about it. The funniest thing to me about all the anti-botters is that you all never bother to come up with a suggestion on how to improve it or change how it’s implemented. It’s this knee jerk emotional reaction that you then spend paragraphs rationalizing to each other.

Within the constraints we have with Lemmy as the platform it is, the options for mods are limited for now. How do you propose addressing the issues that the bot attempts to solve if you get rid of the bot?

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 7 hours ago
[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee -1 points 7 hours ago

Scintillating conversationalist! Great, so you’re one of the only folks I’ve seen step forward with help. Still doesn’t change the fact you claim to be speaking for “everyone” when you, in fact, do not speak for everyone.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 6 hours ago

Apology accepted. Have a good one.

Fuck me for caring about this platform, right?

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago

So you seem really angry about something and I was literally just asking for clarification on why you felt the way you did. Sorry for taking an interest

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

A dedicated source discussion thread for every post would have to be automated and, ideally, link to a source that checks the bias and credibility of the source...

You just suggested what we're already doing...

People can link their own sources. There could be a dedicated community to keep track. Literally anything is better than the half-assed bot telling everyone what to think.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Please provide an OG source for this.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Stop it, I really mean it!

[-] teft@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Rest well, and dream of large women.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

While you're at it, why don't you give me a nice paper cut and pour lemon juice on it?

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