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Google is developing a Terminal app for Android that'll let you run Linux apps. It'll download and run Debian in a VM for you.

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Engineers at Google started work on a new Terminal app for Android a couple of weeks ago. This Terminal app is part of the Android Virtualization Framework (AVF) and contains a WebView that connects to a Linux virtual machine via a local IP address, allowing you to run Linux commands from the Android host. Initially, you had to manually enable this Terminal app using a shell command and then configure the Linux VM yourself. However, in recent days, Google began work on integrating the Terminal app into Android as well as turning it into an all-in-one app for running a Linux distro in a VM.

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Google is still working on improving the Terminal app as well as AVF before shipping this feature. AVF already supports graphics and some input options, but it’s preparing to add support for backing up and restoring snapshots, nested virtualization, and devices with an x86_64 architecture. It’s also preparing to add some settings pages to the Terminal app, which is pretty barebones right now apart from a menu to copy the IP address and stop the existing VM instance. The settings pages will let you resize the disk, configure port forwarding, and potentially recover partitions.

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If you’re wondering why you’d want to run Linux apps on Android, then this feature is probably not for you. Google added Linux support to Chrome OS so developers with Chromebooks can run Linux apps that are useful for development. For example, Linux support on Chrome OS allows developers to run the Linux version of Android Studio, the recommended IDE for Android app development, on Chromebooks. It also lets them run Linux command line tools safely and securely in a container.

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[-] soothing_salamander@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago

This could be really interesting. I don't personally see a use case for me to run Linux apps on Android. I could see myself running android apps on Linux though. Pretty happy to see this.

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 149 points 1 day ago

Termux has been a thing for years.

[-] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 159 points 1 day ago

Yeah but I bet google's one will have lots of cool features like being harder to use and not supporting becoming root and requiring google play services for no discernable reason

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

If it’s anything like ChromeOS, it’ll be a VM where you can do whatever you want, within that VM.

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[-] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Termux recently got moved off of the play store (kinda), and is now only available on f-droid/github, because Google was further locking down what they allowed on their store.

And in addition to that, they recently added a restriction in later versions of Android: "Child process limit". Although this limit used to not there, when enabled, it prevents users from truly running arbitrary linux programs, like via termux.

Although the child process limit can still be disabled in developer options, it doesn't bode well for how flexible base android in the future will be, since many times corpos like Google move stuff into the "secret" options before eventually removing that dial all together.

TLDR: Termux has been, and is a thing... for now.

Also, I want to shout out winlator. It uses a linux proot, similator to termux, and has box64 and wine inside that proot that people can use to play games. I tested with Gungeon, and it even has controller support and performance, which is really impressive.

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

winlator can run windows apps on android

Hey that sounds neat!

uses ubuntu as a base

Oh no...

MIT license

oh no

Have to install from github/no F-Droid build

oh no

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

Termux doesn't run arbitrary software. There's a pretty large set that does but plenty doesn't. A VM would resolve that.

[-] vala@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Ehh it kinda does considering you can get a pretty full compiler tool chain running via termux.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Through termux you can already install a full linux distro on android. It is a little slow, but full desktop environment. Not bad if you have a phone that supports display output

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[-] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Termux has been a thing for years.

Termux is not a full linux environment, you need proot (slow) or chroot (insecure) to get a full environment.

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[-] Gallardo994@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Smells like they might be preparing to make their own portable console running Android.

[-] artvabas@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Would it be like a Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) but then for Android?

[-] mindlight@lemm.ee 88 points 1 day ago

Yeah... While making users run Linux applications on a system where Google is root might be a wet dream for Google, it's more of a nightmare for me.

I really hate the fact that the vast majority of consumers are perfectly fine with not being in full control of their appliances and that Google (and others) register everything they do.

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago

I’ll just run Linux shit on…Linux

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I’ll just run Linux shit on…Linux

Android is a variant of Linux, just not GNU/Linux because of not using glibc.

[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago

With diffs sometimes around 5m lines of code (in case of qcom)

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[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 15 hours ago

does this mean more steam support for android ?

[-] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

an all-in-one app for running a Linux distro in a VM.

No, it won't

let you run Linux apps on Android

It will let you run Linux apps in Linux

[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

This could actually make Samsung dex/desktop mode actually useful

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

yeah I'll stick to the other way around

[-] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

Plasma Mobile for Android? 🤔

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