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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Mwa@lemm.ee to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn't find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it's fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux and also i need to wait some time for my affinity subscription to end orrrr i try running it on bottles/wine again)
Edit: I have delete roblox due to 2 reasons one to ease deleting windows and their management
Edit 2: i might test first If I ever boot into my windows disk to see if I need it anymore

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[-] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 63 points 2 months ago

Jump the ship, I did 6 years ago, before even proton was a thing when games worked witha lot of thinkering.

Nowdays you habe so many great games working you won't mind a couple of games not working because of all the other playable games.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh yeah true I can run most of my games I play daily fine( including proton and native but gmod has some hiccups on native linux tho) on my dualbooted partition or in this case separate hardrive (excluding roblox like mentioned in the post)

[-] rzlatic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

same here, same time period. everything works. one have to be aware there's no adobe or autodesk and linux is not windows same as osx is not, and it will not look or behave as windows. beside specific issues for some users, for me it works flawlessly.

one thing cannot grasp is willingness of so many to dual boot.

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[-] solrize@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

should I completely jumpship to linux when windows 10 ends support

Nah, there's no need to wait.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I'd recommend dual booting right now so you can transition over a longer period. Also make sure your chosen distro supports dual-boot. Technically any distro can dual-boot but if it doesn't support dual-boot you'll have to put in some extra effort to make sure both can boot safely and easily.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

need it for some apps but its possible i can switch on march 2025 a whole few months before windows 10 ends support

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 months ago

When I left for Linux I had to give up League of Legends. I sucked it up, & after a month, I was fine without it & it was better since I knew it wouldn’t be worth the effort even trying to install it on Linux.

[-] alphapuggle@programming.dev 19 points 2 months ago
[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

I am happy Arcane is good tho. Knowing the characters makes it a more fun & engaging. They built some good art & lore.

[-] alphapuggle@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

Arcane is a fantastic series, eagerly awaiting the next season. Even my sister is into it (and as far as I know she has no clue what League of Legends is)

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[-] nous@programming.dev 23 points 2 months ago

Why wait? Start using Linux friendly software in your day to day workflows. Then start to dual boot Linux with your current system and start using it more and more. By the time windows 10 reaches EOL you will know if you still need a Windows install or not.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

I am already dualbooting I discovered most of my software I need work first I need to get rid of affinity suite since it's a trial and then I can get rid of roblox if I start becoming bored of it for multiple reasons(rubin Sim explains this well)

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 20 points 2 months ago

The longer you wait, the more distros we'll have to argue about when you ask for suggestions

[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago

I’ve been a dual / triple / god knows how many OS booted since the 90’s.

Windows has gotten into bad habits lately - it’s not staying in its lane. Meaning it hasn’t respected other boot partitions for a long time, and recently there seems to be a lot of people having problems with windows nuking their linux installs.

My strong recommendation is to buy a second hard drive if you dual boot. Then windows can be “over there” - I’ve never had a problem dedicating ssds to the OS. My second recommendation is to do this now, why wait until you’re forced into something? You’ve got a year to learn Linux and get comfortable with it.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

oh yeah speaking of other drives its better since gparted doesnt let you merge it somtimes into one linux disk causing you to reinstall

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[-] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago

Why wait? Dual boot, get cozy, still have the ability to go back to Windows if needed, find alternative apps, and soon enough, you won't need the Windows partition :) Worked for my partner, my brother, and myself

[-] eugenia@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

Why wait? There's no need for Windows, unless you're running some super-specialized app. The new versions of Windows already have telemetry and privacy issues, so why just go with minimal security options that MS is selling you? You can do almost everything in Linux just as well, if not better, than Windows does at this point. Start with Linux Mint, which is the most Windows-y distribution and you should be golden.

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[-] derbolle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I switched a year or so ago and never looked back. there will be issues you need to overcome though. so better start with dualboot before windows 10 is eol

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[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

You should set up dual boot now so you don’t get surprised by differences when support ends and you feel the need to switch to an ltsc sku or use Linux.

Don’t wait, prepare!

Keep a hold of windows for a little while so that if something critical comes up that you can’t figure out you have a fallback.

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[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

Dualboot definitely, don't belive anything other than that, taking slow the only good way

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[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Every sane person will recommend Linux only. However not everyone can use it. WMs decrease performance so you'll need good hardware. Dualboot may delete one of your OSes. It's a matter of if it's worth it or not. I personally don't see a problem with running Windows only for gaming. Though if you're paranoid about privacy then it may not be a good idea if your Linux partition is not encrypted (if there are backdoors, someone can mount your Linux partition remotely and read it etc etc). If you still want to keep Windows, buy a second physical drive to avoid the OS deletion risk.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I already have a second physical disk but windows 11 only being supported and maybe ltsc in October 2025 it might be more important for linux, I can agree not everyone can use it but paired with a lightweight wm it can be good.

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[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago

Start using it now in a VM. Linux has gotten very user friendly over the years but it's still a completely different system with different design philosophies. Ease into it now and test the water with different distros

[-] data1701d@startrek.website 9 points 2 months ago

I would almost recommend GPU passthrough if you have a dual GPU system and can figure it out. It definitely takes a bit of tinkering, but I like the results: I now have both a Windows 10 (maybe will become 11, maybe 11 LTSC) and a Hackintosh VM. It's not as good if you only have one graphics card, through. If you're up for it, I used this tutorial. If it's an AMD card, though, make sure to check my issue for any steps relating to that.

As for dual boot, get a second drive if you can. I find it helps me avoid a lot of the misery, although I very rarely actually boot up Windows anymore - just a VM if I really have to (which I do for MATLAB because my university is ridiculous and I figure if I'm going to use an evil programming language, I might as well use it in an isolated, evil environment).

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[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

If you switch to single boot Linux you can always install Windows in a virtual machine later in a pinch.

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[-] Drigo@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago

I jumped ship a month ago. Never really used Linux outside of some small school projects.

And my god have I had lots of issues with stuff that didn't work or it was missing some packages that I had no idea how to get.

I have a colleague that have used Linux for +10-20 years. So having somebody to ask for help is very valuable!

But all the games I normally play is working so I don't regret jumping ship.

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[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 8 points 2 months ago

Something I did that helped make the jump was buying a separate drive to put linux on and removing my windows drive. It makes the act of switching back to windows take more effort, but didn't remove the possibility altogether.

I also got an enclosure for my M.2 and can use the windows drive as a super fast thumb drive and use that to transfer the files from the windows drive that I care to keep on linux. (none of it is critical, not worth doing proper back ups)

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Jump ship. Just know, windows will pull you back in, especially if you work in corporate/office work. I was doing my work from home on Linux for two years straight, then my work mandated windows 11 for everyone. It’s been a nightmare. I just want my xfce!

[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

You can always consider the experience of using Linux as a "game" itself and DU ET NAO!

...no really. Do it.

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As long as you have your windows license key you can change your mind later so really you can do whatever. I'd recommend giving 100% linux a try if that seems fun. Obviously you're gonna want to back up any interesting files that you have on windows either way.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

full linux right?

[-] wazoox@jlai.lu 6 points 2 months ago

My experience : jump ships. Dual-boot is unpractical. I dual-booted my PC at first, but that makes you remain on what's comfortable, and that's windows. Swallow the hard pill and leave windows behind. If you're already working mostly with OSS software (surf with Firefox, use LibreOffice, etc) than it's not that hard.

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[-] drmoodmood@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Doesn't hurt to try. I weened myself off Windows by using linux every single day and fiddling around for a few hours. Eventually it just clicked and i very rarely boot up Windows nowadays for apps that will not run on linux. Good luck!

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[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 6 points 2 months ago

No better way to learn and get used to it than ripping off the bandage and being forced to deal with it. That's what I did. Been Windows-free for ten years. If you still have a Windows partition around, it may be too tempting to just go back to it when things get a bit hairy.

As far as games, yeah, it sucks that I can't play some games, but I've filled that time with more productive hobbies. I can program C and C++ now, self taught on Linux.

But the more people that jump ship, the more developers will target Linux, so it's just a matter of time now before you can play anything again. It's definitely a 1000x better environment now than when I switched back then.

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[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

All advice here seems to focus on linux, but I'd say rip that bandaid off first. Go cold turkey on roblox. That shit is the worst cancer to come out of something that was fun initially.

Not in four months to a year. Yesterday. Learn to control your impulses first and the rest will fall into place, whichever way you go.

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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

Better just start dual booting. If you begin to use Windows less and less, you can throw away that Windows partition and expand your Linux partition.

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[-] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

I wish I could switch to Linux but sadly I can't (one of the main things I use a computer for won't work on Linux) so I'll be using windows 10 beyond eol and forever into the foreseeable future and I don't see native instruments making a Linux version any time soon. I email them at least once a year asking about it in the hope they one day fucking do it!

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Ltsc is possible it is for embedded systems tho

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I tried dual-booting Win10 and Arch for a few months. It was problematic.

I had to set the clock every time I switched because one expected the hardware clock to use UTC time and the other expected local time.

NTFS on Linux is not good. The driver works, but there are fundamental differences between NTFS and Unix-like filesystems that makes cooperation difficult (e.g. NTFS uses ACLs instead of the user/group ownership and user/group/others permissions of Unix). Windows also places additional restrictions on the filesystem (e.g. NTFS supports file names that contain :, Windows doesn't) that can completely bork the volume if violated.

But the worst offender, and what made me nuke Windows entirely, is Windows Update. It completely fucked up the boot partition, deleted the bootloader, then died and left Windows unusable.

These are all issues that can be solved, if you know how to solve them. My advice is to go cold turkey and delete Windows from your life.

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[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you need Windows for some applications (e.g. Fusion, Call of Duty, etc.), dual boot it , but only the LTSC versions of it. Here are the links for the LTSC versions of Windows. I know that they're not from the official source, but I checked them and the checksums match. Otherwise, use Linux.

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[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

Doo Eeeet, Doo EEeet Now!!!

Seriously though, I vote VM under linux. Spin it up for whatever you need, use it less and less, no regrets...

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

If you have a laptop and a desktop put it on the laptop fully rather than dual boot

Until proton came out I kept dual booting but I always ended up booting into windows because I didn't know how to do x on Linux

When I just wiped windows completely and put it on my laptop I distro hopped for a bit but never went back

Ended up switching my PC over too after about 6 months and I no longer own any windows machines, nor feel the need to besides the odd firmware upgrade of a peripheral or something

[-] DoubleChad@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Throwing out another idea: I upgraded an aging laptop and put mint on it and it's my main right now, but I can get on the newer windows computer if I need to. I rarely need to now, though things will come up and its nice to have an out. Recently it was getting my printer working which I so rarely use. Didn't have the patience, just needed the doc printed, flipped to windows.

It's a little sad to me. I watched windows rise to its peak with windows 2000 and slowly fall. Been using it since 3.1, and had dos-only for a little while before that. It's time to say goodbye. Been on and off with Linux since the early 2000s but this is my first real big push to use it outside of work or projects. Linux has come a long way from those days.

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[-] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

You'll never be wrong by making it dual boot - if you won't need Windows, hooray, but if you will - it's still there, always has been.

[-] mathias_freire@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Depends on your needs. If you use any proprietary production tools like Photoshop, you may still need to keep Windows on the side. As for myself, unless the user really gets used to Linux, gains some experience, I do not advise to switch to Linux fully. I've seen so many people who did this and returned back to Windows.

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[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I chose the dual boot option when I decided to switch a year ago, and I found myself rarely using Windows eventhough it is installed on my laptop. I might have only boot it up 3-4 times since the switch, for GFN not working properly with ALT when running through browser. The dual boot just make my disk partition needlessly complicated, and I'm going to reinstall it yet again, without Windows.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 4 points 2 months ago

I feel you. I installed dual boot and basically just never bothered to boot Windows again because the stuff I need works.

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