For a non-American this thread and other like this are hilarious: the people who spent the last year campaigning "Vote Not Trump" now blame everybody else but themselves for how their strategy of having a candidate who did nothing to appeal to voters and sold fear of the other instead, failed miserably.

So they post tons of such "it's the fault of everybody else" memes as topics were they and other members of the tribe make posts with wild ass reasons for why it really is everybody else's faults and responding to such posts from others by basically saying "yeah, you're so right", like one gigantic circle jerk, pretty much a continuation of what they were doing for a whole fucking year - a big fat circle jerk whilst not paying attention to anybody else - only now they're doing it with sad faces.

Sure, it's the 14 millions who stayed home that are to blame, not the massive incompetence of the DNC and the mindless tribalist muppets trading dumb Trump and Vance memes whilst thinking that their "leaders" deserved a win merelly for wearing the right pin on their jacket and not being Trump, without needing to actually have policies that appealed to their natural voters.

"Bloody natural Democrat voters, not going to polls and doing what they're supposed to do!"

What a heady, heady mix of stupidity and sense of entitlement.

Reminds me of the whole saying: "Only two things are infinite - the Universe and Human Stupidity - and we're not sure about the first"

The guy won the popular vote. The people who sat the election out would probably have broken for Trump too.

The problem here isn't voter turnout, it's voter preference for a fascist.

Looks like fairly close to the same amount v9ted this election (at least in my state) as the 2020 election. Maybe slightly higher.

Lotta people are blaming the dnc for the L. I blame them for forcing Hillary in 2016, but this go around? No. Neither candidate in 2024 was a great pick, but Harris was still clearly a better choice to run the country, and anyone could find that with a touch of research. Even passively.

This time around it's because the majority of Americans are uneducated, short sighted, idiots. They voted in a senile 80 year old republican felon, while every one who worked under him in 2016 said not to vote for him, economists said not to vote for him, and everyone else but Putin across the globe screamed not to vote for him.

Wasn't there a song about this in the 90s?

Pave Plaestine to put up a parking lot?

“He didn’t elaborate on what would be ‘nasty.’”

Bullies usually don't elaborate. Being vague lets you fill in your own demons, which is more frightening.

Also plausible deniability when the thugs he's whistling to go out and bash gays or blacks or Mexicans or whoever (athough in their minds he was giving them permission). "I never said go bash heads. No, I meant nasty as in peacefully, as in not sugarcoating the hard truth, which can be nasty."

You don't get to have a "perfect" candidate. Most of the time, your choices are between which choice you dislike the least. And when the choices are between Harris and another 4 years of Donald farking Trump . . . well holy jumping shitballs . . . that should have been the easiest choice in the world.

Fark EVERYONE who made this possible. And enjoy your precious little "protest vote" Dems. This is your fault, too.

Ah yes the free Palestine crowd...lol wait until they see what Israel will do with no US restraint demands.

As a Michigander, a special fuck you to all the dipshits who voted independent

Fascist country

Damn it, @SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world, you're supposed to be here to make us laugh, not make us cry.

I don't mind progressives staying home in 2016 to send the message to the DNC that a more progressive candidate was needed.

What I have a problem with is those same progressives showing up for Biden in record numbers in 2020, which sends a conflicting message to the DNC that you do need to put up a white moderate against Trump, and then staying home in 2024 when another moderate is on the ticket.

I hear you Bernie bros, I wish Bernie had been on the ticket in 2016 as well, but we'll never know whether he would have beat Trump in the general. I would have rather given Trump four more years in 2020, then have to still deal with him now.

If he had just won in 2020, then we wouldn't have had a violent insurrection that WILL happen again because it was validated by re-electing this guy and failing to hold him accountable.

Now it's both totally unclear whether a progressive candidate could actually win in the general, and we have to deal with Trump until 2028. If the Democrats put up a progressive candidate like an AOC for 2028 and still lose... Then we're completely fucked and would have to swing moderate again in 2032.. would progressives still stay home out of protest if it's shown that progressive policies are unpopular in the general election? Or would progressives finally agree to get behind a moderate candidate?

To be clear, I hope the Democratic primaries for 2028 do yield a more progressive candidate, and that they do win the general, but this is a really dangerous gamble. I hope the nation, world and vulnerable groups can hang on while we see if it will pay off.