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On election night, as the results looked to be in Trump’s favor, the baseless conspiracy theories about fraud began tapering off.

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[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 199 points 1 month ago

Isn't that weird?

It's almost like they didn't believe in their own claims.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 102 points 1 month ago

Or they don't want anyone investigating their victory too closely

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

They already caught republicans doing shady shit before Tuesday. Who knows how many they didn’t catch.

[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 142 points 1 month ago

No, the narrative just changed. Good luck convincing anyone the 2020 election wasn't stolen ever again.

"I told you. In 2020 we won all 50 states. Voter fraud by the millions. I was saying it all along. But we worked hard, we passed laws for election integrity, we watched the polls and they couldn't cram their 10, 15 million votes into the boxes again. And look what happened. Instead of winning by 8 million votes, she lost by 6 million votes. Which is what should have happened last time."

This is the narrative I've been hearing. The voters that just stayed home simply never existed in the first place, as far as they're concerned. He's going to use this victory as proof of his claim that he should have won last time, voter fraud was rampant, and Democrats are cheaters. And it's going to work.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

And it’s going to work.

Well, let's face it - the target audience for such stupid narratives are his base, and they are dumb as a box of rocks.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Please don't insult them. Boxes of rocks can still serve a purpose and don't deserve to be denigrated like that.

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

No box of rocks ever called me a ______. Insert a slur!

No box of rocks ever had his picture taken with Jeffrey Epstein!

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Remember that half of the population is below average.

I’m assuming that other 2% had other motivations.

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[-] blattrules@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Should we tell him who was president in 2020 and who was president in 2024? Oh right, it doesn’t matter to them as long as they repeat it a million times.

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[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 81 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, not true. They are saying that this time they knew to watch close, so the Democrats couldn't pull of the same fraud as 2020. They are indeed stating that it is "supisious" that 13 Million Democratic voices where nowhere to be seen this time around, taking that as proof they were right all along.

That's how this works. You take reality and then make it mean what you want it to mean. So that's their take in regards to voter fraud.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 month ago

That’s how this works. You take reality and then make it mean what you want it to mean.

What's "fun" is when you realize an awful lot of people do this with an awful lot of topics all the fucking time. Probably including yourself.

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I would say everyone does it. Confirmation bias isn't something you can completely avoid. You can try to recognise it in yourself, but most of the time it's a lot more subtle. As simple as reading something you agree with and not going to check the source. We ALL do that.

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[-] Freefall@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

You really have to be a stupid person to be a Republican these days. Wild.

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 74 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Given their penchant for projection, has anyone considered that the fraud was coming from inside the house?

I believe we have one of the most secure elections in the world. I don't believe in conspiratorial bullshit. I'm just saying, anything the Republicans accuse others with is frankly evidence that they are doing it themselves.

They tell me immigrants are eating pets? Yeah I'm going to say there's definitely a non-zero chance that republicans are out there picking up roadkill cats and dogs. I mean Kennedy has probably done that 100 times himself.

So if the Republicans accuse Democrats of creating millions of fake votes I doubt it's possible to do, but let's double check anyway because now they've made me suspicious.

[-] D1G17AL@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago

They literally had their supporters burn drop-off ballot boxes and destroy ballots. They literally intimidated other voters. They harassed poll workers and volunteers whose entire purpose is to ensure everyone who is eligible to vote has everything they need in order to do so. Yet no one is batting a fucking eye. THESE FUCKERS STOLE THE ELECTION. 15 million less votes than what Biden got and Trump got about the same as he did when he ran before. This stinks of interference.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

I don't think that the physical interference would have been enough to turn this one. The interference in the media/social media however was definitely the root cause to this. Along with Democrats shifting more right than they have in decades

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 month ago

Can we also consider that intentionally making it harder to vote in Democrat leaning counties in otherwise Republican States is electoral fraud? Because it kinda is.

[-] ziggurat@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

If you remove the word kinda, your comment becomes true

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[-] genXgentleman@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

My co-worker and I were talking about that last night. I told her that it's amazing that not one fucking republican as uttered those two words, "voters fraud", since Tuesday night. Isn't it amazing how that is no longer a problem???? The fucking hypocrites!!!!

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[-] cmrn@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

And yet I still have Facebook friends posting about how “all the states Kamala won are the ones that don’t require photo ID…”

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Of fucking course. These people really should try breathing through their noses.

[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Those aren't your friends. Those are Nazis.

[-] ReCursing@lemmings.world 36 points 1 month ago

We know they've tried electoral interference before, what are the chances they did it again this and it worked this time?

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

The GOP winning at all means it worked, just as it has in the past. Gerrymandering, voter purges, limiting access, corrupt judiciary, prisons, dark money groups, etc. That is how the GOP has won for several decades. They have NEVER been able to win a fair democratic election on a national level.

[-] mm_maybe@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

I know that most progressives are just crying in their beer and looking for someone in their party or an adjacent political group to blame, but why isn't more attention being brought to the many many efforts by Republicans and their overseas allies to corrupt the election and disenfranchise Democrats? I'm disgusted by the institutionalism that leads our leaders to call and congratulate the fascists rather than holding our own rallies to demand accountability for election irregularities.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It’s really odd to me that they just quietly conceded and moved straight to complaining about the loss. Conservatives have been screaming about election fraud for years and every accusation is a confession with them…I would not be surprised if the numbers are fictional

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Now they also control the social media platform that liberals and leftists used for organizing.

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[-] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

How common was voter purge this time around? Could it have impacted people who voted early?

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[-] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

I mean, if you're talking about fake ass twitter accounts and grifting, they did that in plain sight.

But these strategies should be well known by the democrats by now and they aren't invulnerable to counteracting. It's simply the case that less people showed up to vote this election than previous ones, I guess.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

Schrödinger's voter fraud

[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Don’t worry, they’ll still have Biden, Clintons, and Kamala to blame for all of Donnie’s mistakes.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago
[-] ziggurat@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Barack HUSSEIN Obama

Sorry, there was just an orange turd that made a law that made it illegal to not call him that

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

Wait so I can't just tweet, without context anymore just...

RIGGED!

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

No worries, they'll claim voter fraud next set of elections and by 2028 there won't be elections to claim fraud on.

[-] allidoislietomyself@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Nah I'm pretty sure this was our last real presidential election. The rest will be pure spectacle and will be used for fund raising and entertainment purposes only.

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 15 points 1 month ago

In the last few months, he claimed that "we have all the votes we need", and his followers didn't need to vote anymore, they were going to win. I immediately thought he meant they were going to cheat. I can't find the place he said this, it was at a rally. It's not the same as his comment that he made to a bunch of christians that said they won't have to vote again in the future because they were going to "fix it". This was after that. This guy is a lifelong con man, he lies and cheats. Somehow I believe he did that in this election. I hope they find out he paid for votes because that's just his style.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

My wife literally just told me this today. Apparently he said it multiple times - someone made a supercut. I haven't seen it yet myself.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Gosh, so they aren't going to organize a "stop the steal" that is designed to specifically steal an election?

[-] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 12 points 1 month ago

I wonder if the government still controls the weather?

[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Its almost as if, I don't know, every single thing out of their mouth is completely fucking bullshit

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