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[-] karashta@lemm.ee 120 points 1 week ago

You forgot the part where the komodo dragon's "promised land" was full of Phoenician Canaanites they had to genocide first.

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The same Canaanites from Noah's son because after everyone was killed by a flood, God deemed Canaan's blood the good people worth saving?

He sure seemed to fuck it up and have to wipe out humans quite a few times. But that's what you get for putting a tree in Eden for no other reason but to introduce sin to the innocent and trick humans into thinking Lucifer was the evil one.

And now he loves America. Just don't tell the Italians.

Starting to see a pattern of bad outcomes for whoever makes a deal with this guy at the time...

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

You mean "was full of tasty snacks".

Imagine Mongolia just started invading China and be like "MY ANCESTORS USED TO LIVE HERE"

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Imagine the Australians descending on London like "Oh yea nah me bluddy rellys is fully from here aye!"

[-] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I would support that. After that Australia can join the EU, and they're already in Eurovision.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

And maybe do something about the TERF infestation.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Yes please. I'll donate to that gofundme.

[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 7 points 1 week ago

This is Turkish nationalists with Turanist dreams

[-] wieson@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

There's literally a province called Inner Mongolia where the Mongols not just used to live but live to this day.

[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The irony would be even greater if they were kicking out birds who they accused of displacing the ancient Dinosaurs.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 30 points 1 week ago

Birds: Um, akshully, we're more closely related than you are!

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

Chickens 100% are just mini T-rexes.

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[-] Korne127@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

The problem is that this argument can really be made both ways. If someone said Israel shouldn't exist because Palestinians used to live there before that, that's just essentially the same argument.

[-] uzay@infosec.pub 59 points 1 week ago

Israel shouldn't exist because it's a colonial apartheid state perpetrating a genocide. That doesn't mean every non-palestinian has to leave either.

[-] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 1 week ago

But saying that Israel shouldn't exist doesn't mean that the Israelis have to leave

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[-] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago

Neither argument hold any merit and is an example of the tyranny of history. Who cares what a bunch of dead assholes thought was theirs? The people who live there (not the politicians who pretend to represent their interests) are the only people that have any legitimate claim to authority on what should be done about the region.

[-] uzay@infosec.pub 10 points 1 week ago

It is especially meritless to equate people who claim the land based on other people sharing their religion having lived there a thousand years ago, with people whose grandparents got kicked out of their houses and who've had to live in an open air prison ever since while being subjected to regular attempts at ethnic cleansing.

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[-] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago
[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

Inbreeding mastery level: British

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

"Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his inbreeding levels?"

"IT'S OVER 9000 YEARS!"

[-] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Even better is that the guy is 42 with no kids. I get that we all technically have ancestry that goes back to the first life on the planet, but this guy suddenly happens to have verified family lineage that goes back farther than any other human on the entire planet... And he's the last one.
I pray that he consciously chose not to have kids... I know how soul destroying it can be to want to have kids but not be able to. But this guy... He suddenly, because someone needed a warm body to fill out their numbers to a nice round number, is directly confronted by a family lineage 9000 years old. And he's the last. What an absolute mind fuck.

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago

H-how did they get spouses? Nevermind, I probably don't want to know.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Spouses can move to the village, it's just that the children never leave.

At least one parent was born in the village.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In my world understanding colonialism was never good, but anything after ww2 is just invalid. There needs to be some cut off date where we say "at this point everyone knew and we had international laws against genocide" after which it just becomes invalid and any land claimed afterwards is not recognized or supported.

Israel was definitely too late to the colonial party and kinda should be considered illegitimate.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A little convenient that the cutoff date is after Europeans divided the world for themselves.

[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

right? all colonial states are illegitimate

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 week ago

Ofcourse they are, but if you go back to times where colonialism was the norm and in no way internationally frowned upon, then not a single current day country would be legitimate. So it kinda makes sense to set the cut off at a point where colonialism was at an all time low, because if you dont then all you get is world war.

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[-] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago

Does this also apply to Native Americans or...?

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago

Native Americans have a different claim. They are not claiming their ancestors give them the right to use the land. They have agreements with the US government. The US then promptly turned around and ignored their promises. The native Americans have the receipts.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 week ago

Agreements about historical land ownership only apply to white people!

[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Blood and soil nationalism is ok when it's promoted by non-white people.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Hungarian ultra-nationalists: "Since your kind was under my ancestor's rule, you have to rejoin my country and learn my language, or else you're a [incoherent antisemitic screaming]!"

[-] muzzle@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Seagulls be like...

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