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[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 3 points 5 hours ago

They're especially greedy when you consider they are not only the most profitable of all their competitors (Netflix/Disney Plus/Hulu/etc), but that they're unique in that they're the only one who doesn't fund creating any content at all.

At least the other companies put tons of money producing content alongside their other stuff. YouTube just lets others do that for them and then takes all the profit.

So how does YouTube really justify their costs for premium with zero production costs and the largest profit margin?

[-] tweeks@feddit.nl 3 points 3 hours ago

Most other companies can be selective in what they host / stream. YouTube will host/stream anything users upload and that's actually quite insane. Current statistics say that YouTubers upload 30.000 hours of video.. per hour.

Aside from the streaming/processing, only the disk space that would need is already frightening. Most of those videos will never be seen, and no ads will be played on them. The setup needed for this is massively more impressive to me than services like Netflix.

Do you perhaps have a source for those profit margins? I really wonder if they're already running break even.

[-] subiacOSB@lemmy.ml 10 points 12 hours ago

I was paying for it until it got to like $16.99 on iOS. As much of an annoyance to use a work around like AD Guard. I can now afford it but refuse to give those greedy mofos a dime.

[-] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 8 hours ago

That is because you are paying for the premium of signing up through ios; apple takes a cut so to make money they raise the rates. It's extremely common signing up to any service through ios, that you will be charged higher than if you went to the website on your browser and sign up for it there. First link has link to Hank Green who does a great break down and investigation but provided many more examples.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/28/24166546/subscribing-to-stuff-from-your-iphone-is-a-waste-of-money

https://www.devicemag.com/youtube-premium-cost-iphone/

https://lifehacker.com/dont-sign-up-for-subscriptions-in-the-app-1850298355

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaharziv/2020/07/08/heres-why-your-apple-app-store-purchases-may-be-a-ripoff/

https://umatechnology.org/psa-subscriptions-cost-more-when-bought-on-an-iphone/

[-] zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 hours ago

Apple fan boys down voting me? I make a valid point with proof without bashing apple products and even a solution to get the same rates as everyone else and i get down voted. That makes sense...

[-] jg1i@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

More than you think, actually. My wife recently signed up. I'm like, Babe! I already have uBlock Origin to block ads on desktop! On mobile, Firefox also blocks ads and allows listening to videos with the screen off. 😫

But, we still get ads on our smart LG TV. So. That's apparently enough to throw the money away.

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 8 points 7 hours ago

It's okay to pay for a service that you use daily.

I don't, but I disagree it's "to throw money away".

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Especially if you can finagle a subscription out of one of the cheaper countries, too!

[-] Species8472@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 hours ago

Does that still work? Thought to have read here and there that Google is cracking down on that loophole? Maybe not (yet) if you are an existing 'foreign' sub.

Finally gave in to a 2 month free trial of YouTube premium this week. Not planning on buying into it however when the trial expires. But with the holidays thought it was a good time to accept the trial for two full months.

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

They are getting stricter, but there are still ways around it - and it only gets easier if you have friends/family (or are willing to make friends) in said countries; the internet is a global community, after all.

[-] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

We csncelled all streaming and use plex but we watch too much YouTube and am tired of having to keep up with versions of pirate apps every time they break. I already deal with having to keep patching the newest youtube apk with vanced on my phone. Not gonna bother for all the other devices.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Exact same story. It's frustrating.

[-] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Look into getting SmartTube for the TV. Works pretty great for me

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 13 hours ago

Is that why I am getting about one ad for every 90 seconds of video ?

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Is that how bad it is? Fuck...

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 3 points 11 hours ago

Just recently it has gotten worse. The good thing is that I don't watch TV at all any longer because I used youtube. Now I'm watching less youtube AND no TV so win win for my free time.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 17 hours ago

That actually makes more sense to me compared to most premium features. Higher quality directly costs more money to stream.

[-] dreikelvin@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

I'd try it if they finally offered us a one year subscription period here in europe. they don't. their loss 🤷‍♂️

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

My girlfriend said the same thing about Korea. Google keeps getting in their own way of selling a good service

[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

YouTube already randomly drops me to 360p on my big-ass broadband sometimes because it just feels like it. What are the guarantees YouTube Premium won't do that? ANSWER ME YOUTUBE, THIS IS CRUCIAL PRE-PURCHASE INFORMATION.

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[-] rocky1138@sh.itjust.works 11 points 17 hours ago

I pay for premium but would love to use peertube instead since it's decentralized. It would be great to have all the people I sub to upload there as well then I'd bail.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago

As with most things in the modern world that have gone to shit. It is not the monetization scheme in of itself that is the issue. It is the never ending desire for more profit this quarter than last forever.

If it was acceptable to stop trying to make even more once the cost to operate is covered and some healthy profit is made predictably then a lot less people would have issues. And enshitification would slow down.

[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 day ago

I don't care that enhanced Bitrate is premium only. I do care that you still need to click "advanced resolution settings" to access this even for premium users on mobile.

[-] skizzles@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

And even if you select high resolution preferred in settings, they will absolutely serve that shit at a low resolution forcing you to manually select the resolution every damn time.

Yes YouTube my connection is absolutely fast enough to watch at the max resolution you can serve, don't pretend it's my connection to cover for your intentional bumping down in resolution.

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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago

„I don’t want to watch ads and I want everything to be free.”

My brother in christ, this is not how services work.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It wouldn't be so bad if the ads were reasonably placed.

Don't target people who come in from another domain or on the first viewed video. Pre- roll ads after that. Most importantly, ad breaks at creator-defined times only. Sick of ads coming in at arbitrary times in the middle of a sentence. That's the worst part of it, IMO.

Oh and a time limit on ads. That has to happen too.

Also could somebody tell all the streaming companies that they know what language I watch all my videos in and to stop giving me Spanish language ads? Like, I got no problem with other languages, I just really feel like you're wasting your advertisers money showing them to people who don't know a quesadilla from a carton of pickles.

[-] Dicska@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I was fine with it back when it was just one ad that you could skip.

I was fine with it back when it was just two ads that you could skip.

I was fine with it back when it was just two ads, and you could skip one, and the other was 5 seconds long. 10 was a stretch, but I'm patient.

Without an adblocker, now it's playing an unskippable, 10+ seconds long ad at the start AND at the end. Some ads are as long as 20 seconds. If the video is long enough, it dares to abruptly play an ad right in the middle. You can't skip that one, either. We're back to television content-to-ad ratios - the exact thing I was happy to dump once there was enough content on YouTube. I was patient. That wasn't enough for them. They can suck a beehive.

[-] Kyatto@leminal.space 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

We’re back to television content-to-ad ratios

I hate ads too but we're not there yet. When I stopped watching tv it was like at least 30% ads and I am sure it got worse the decade after I quit while it was still relevant.

[-] Dicska@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I wonder if it's (about) the same in every country but I stopped watching it a long time ago (over a decade). If it got even worse then there's no way I'm ever going back, but it was too much for me below that 30%.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 18 hours ago

I can be patient if the content is >10min long.
If I need to watch an ad for every 2-5min video of streamer clips I'd go balistic as that are even more ads than the broadcast tv nonsense.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Free-at-point-of-service is a common feature of amenities provided by countries with socialist economies.

But they only work when the economy is actively managed. If you're just pumping cash into a big banking machine and telling people to grab for it, you're not incentivizing any particular economic activity. You're just encouraging entrepreneurs to get particularly good at snatching money out of the air and elbowing one another in the face.

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