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The first game that comes to mind for me is Civilizations 4. I've probably spent hundreds of hours playing but after getting used to 5 and 6 I have a really hard time going back. Going back and forth between 5 and 6 I need to rethink some strategies but with 4 I feel like I need to rethink everything. I don't know if it's because of the tech tree layout in combination with the civics system, things like unit stacking, or maybe just a bunch of little things but it takes me a while to readjust.

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[-] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 25 points 4 days ago

Outer Wilds. Wish I could forget it, as the progression is based entirely on player knowledge it has 0 replayability(I mean this as an endorsement).

[-] SineSwiper@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago

Watch playthroughs on YouTube and you get to see someone else play it for the first time.

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[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

World of Warcraft

Love the world and history and characters. Gameplay is now pretty shit.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 15 points 4 days ago

Morrowind. Every once in a while I reinstall it, but I can't get over the "it looks like an action game but it's a stats game" thing anymore. And I never liked Oblivion or Skyrim. But when I was a kid, Morrowind was so full of wonder and stuff to discover. I also wasn't playing with a guide, so discovering stuff like "You can enchant an item to have 1-100 strength, duration permanent. It picks the bonus when you put the item on, and it stays that until you take it off. So put it on and off until you get a big number. Much cheaper than trying to enchant it to +100 straight out" felt more personal.

[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Unmodified unpatched original Morrowind had this strange bug where a goblin (can't remember where, but he was in a castle) would sell you 5000 gold for 5000 gold. He would reset every day so you could continue this indefinitely. Then if you killed him you could then loot him for the accumulated gold you had sold him. (Let say you had done this 365 days it would net you 1 825 000 gold)

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

Well, I'd say Morrowind is still decently playable today, esp. with OpenMW. Sure it shows its age, but I'd ratber play that than e.g. Oblivion.

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[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Warframe. I spent 2 years around 2020 farming up every frame, every item, every pet, every everything -- without spending a dime. I was so grateful for the experience I spent nearly $300 in cosmetics when I finished the game.

They're always adding more stuff, but I consider Warframe "beat". It was a killer experience, I had a lot of fun with all the different builds and overpowered shit you could pull off if you were smart. Along with Path of Exile, Warframe stands a pinnacle of how to do Free to Play correctly.

I also did a "No Engram" run on ARK: Survival Ascended -- You're not allowed to learn any of the things you can build; you HAVE to find the items naturally in the world. That was a nightmare, but I managed it -- and will NEVER do it again. It gave me new appreciation for specific aspects of the game.

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago

I was considering playing Warframe a while back because I was a fan of Dark Sector but the reviews I saw online mentioned an incredible amount of grinding. Do you think it's worth picking up for someone who isn't into that kind of thing?

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

If you're impatient, no. Most of the "grind" was starting a crafting job, and waiting 72 hours for it to complete.

Unfortunately everyone wants instant gratification and Warframe is not an instant-gratification game.

What I did was work on things bit by bit, and when I started crafting it - I moved onto farming something else.

Some of the worst items to get in the game, I had to wait a year before they 'unvaulted' the relics for. Other things, I had to log in daily for over a year before they would become available as login rewards.

So -- I repeat -- If all you care about is instant gratification, Warframe is not for you. Unless you have deep pockets. Their monetization scheme is "If you don't want to wait on this thing, pay up". For people who are patient, this is wonderful.

[-] static09@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Warframe has gotten so much better since 2020. I highly recommend coming back for a bit just to do the new quests. All your stuff will still work great in the new content. In fact, it'll work better now that other damage types are way more viable. No longer have to mod everything viral/slash/heat.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Played from 2020 to around the end of 2022, already did all of the rebalance stuff since Rebecca became design lead. I really cannot go back. I beat it. It's done. Regardless of the new frames, etc -- I'm out of that "cycle" now. I'm mastery rank L2 if I am remembering correctly. No matter how much content they release - they'll never release enough of it for me to want to return. I conquered Warframe. Legendary 2 rank. Most people don't even reach MR15 before they crash out. Once I had everything in the game, it was done for me. Permanently.

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[-] SurfinBird@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

Good one. Pretty sure I’d die in that water tunnel just like back then.

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[-] ptc075@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

Toe Jam & Earl. As a kid, it seemed just endlessly creative, you could just explore & explore forever. And the shit humor - I was the exact right age where every joke was a banger. Although the game itself would be badly dated today, I bet the music holds up well, albeit in short bursts. I still get snippets stuck in my head.

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

For me it would probably be most old DOS era games like Dune 2, Ultima Underworld, Warcraft 1, Civilization 1, etc. All of them were great, but it's really difficult to get used to those old control schemes nowadays. Pixelated graphics wouldn't bother me, but those like 15 FPS at max is also hard to get over these days.

Other than that it would be some newer games that lacks a bit of convenience stuff. Like e.g. Diablo 1, where you can't run yet. Or some of the first 3D accelerated shooters that can't remap controls to WASD.

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 2 points 2 days ago

Having to rely on reading and retaining information in manuals is a big thing that keeps me away from a lot of DOS games

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

And don't even get me started on that damn copy protection level "what is 7th word on 16th line on page 23 in manual"!

[-] offspec@lemmy.nicknakin.com 11 points 4 days ago

I don't think I could ever play Jet Force Gemini, but I recall it fondly.

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[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

Gen 1 pokemon. It was awesome to experience, but the formula is just better in later versions.

GoldenEye, I did try it years ago, but going back to one stick for a shooter is really awkward.

Wow, I don't have the time for an MMO anymore and they are a lot less fun after your first experience.

Oblivion and Morrowind, the changes in Skyrim are almost all improvements, and the mod support is better. You can smoothe out the edges of the older games, but it's a long process I'm not interested in. I'll stick with find memories.

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago

Have you tried the mouse and keyboard mod for GoldenEye? I imagine it makes everything incredibly easy but it could be different enough to justify a playing one more time

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 7 points 4 days ago

N64

Emulated maybe some games, but I just can't with most games with the original controller. I grew up with it too, it's just insane.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

I played so much goldeneye that when someone fired it up almost 20 years later the controls were still in my muscle memory. I played fps on pc even back then so I knew the controller wasn't ideal, but it worked well enough.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 4 points 4 days ago

Haha, I played it quite a lot and I did not have the same experience! Respect to speed runners cause my goodness...

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ragnarok Online. My favorite game ever and it’s all MTX now and will never be like the old days. I wish it was. They made RO classic and shut it down. There’s private servers, but they’re not very populated.

[-] besbin@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Hit me right in the nostalgia with this one. Used to played the heck out of it on SEA and my local country server. The game is super grindy for my taste now but I still feel nostalgic about the community and people there.

[-] jay2@beehaw.org 2 points 3 days ago

7th Saga. It's a turn based top down RPG (similar to Final Fantasy 1 or Dragon Warrior 1). The games AI sometimes just kills you (and takes great delight in it). Easily the most frustrating RPG I've played.

Blaster Master for the Nintendo (NES) as well. Instead of evil AI you get evil level design that wants to kill you.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to have a sandwich and play some Leisure Suit Larry 3.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 8 points 4 days ago

I don't think there's anything I wouldn't revisit that still exists.

So things like Diablo 3 vanilla. man, fuck whoever thought of balance patching single player games.

or WoW BC, it's the people and excess free time of youth that made it good so it will never exist again.

Maybe Shenmue 2 import. I finished that game without knowing a word of Japanese, that's a lot of time investment I'm glade I made but wouldn't want to repeat ...

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[-] Kuma@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Pretty much any jrpg for Gameboy, DS, PSP and PS2 (haven't tried many newer). I loved them a lot as a kid/teen but now when I try to play them do I get bored very quickly... I think the audience is supposed to be kids and teens so I am not surprised I don't enjoy them anymore

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 1 points 2 days ago

I get you. I've been going through a lot of "best of" lists for various consoles and it's tough going back and playing them because they were obviously made for a younger audience and and having never played them as a kid I don't really feel the same pull.

The Kirby games are a big one. I've seen a lot of recommendations but can't really get into them.

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[-] Kory@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

Diablo 2 - I've played all classes, some in higher difficulties, again and again and it didn't get old for a very long time. Today I'm not enjoying these kind of games anymore but I'm not sure why. Are they so different or has my taste changed so much?

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

I've quite recently made run of D2 up to middle of Act V and rhen lost interest at all. It was a bit grindy, but the main problem was convenience factor. I was at the point when my summoning Druid started to lack behind and it is pretty much impossible to respec skills to fight that sort of bad decisions... When I was a teenager I'd just scratch it and start over with better build, but ain't nobody got time for that now!

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

Fallout: New Vegas, specifically my Permadeath run. I still replay it, just not that same way.

[-] macabrett@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Most games I played from the PS1/N64 era. It was a time period of figuring things out and that makes it rough to go back to, but some of those experiences were magic. There's still the rare game that I can enjoy to this day (Metal Gear Solid 1, Mario 64), but games like Syphon Filter are best left to my memories.

[-] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago

I loved and hated Ultima VIII. It had a good story, was entertaining, had really good music, but it also had the most horrible jumping-on-moving-platforms torture of any game I have ever played. It also sent me on a quest they never implemented, a fact they forgot to tell the player.

Flashback was also a fantastic game, but I also do not ever want to play that again. I remember destroying a keyboard as a teen because I was so frustrated after missing the same stupid jump for the umpteenth time.

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[-] JTskulk@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Starcraft, Starcraft 2 has ruined me with multi-building-selection, the clunkiness, no smart casting, selecting more than a handful of units at a time.

[-] erik@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

I loved a lot of early Blizzard stuff and I have no desire to play any of them ever again. Warcraft 2, Starcraft, Diablo were all huge parts of my life and I have done nothing with any of those series since those games, let alone go back to those.

I was also a so into Smash Brothers that I was in the competitive scene and won some locals, but I haven't really felt the call of that series since Melee. Loved my time with the game and the scene though.

[-] Aztechnology@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Parasite Eve.

When I first played it the setting and such seemed so cool...but the story and dialogue are actually quite cringe and cliche.

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[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Minesweeper

I forgot what the numbers mean already

[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 4 points 4 days ago

Any of the fallout/elder scrolls series. I remember whiling so many hours away in them as a kid and having a great time, and now any time I pick them up it just feels like a second job, looting and managing inventory ad nauseum.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Morrowind

Waiting for Skywind to come out

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