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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bro thinks Startship Troopers is actual army propaganda.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The book was so on point people still argue if it was pro or anti fascism.

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[-] sol6_vi@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

The cop dramas are often like modern fantasy to me. There's different classes and quests. It doesn't reflect real life.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

We're more aware of it now. Cop shows have always been about cops willing to break the rules, and they are made the heroes. This gave a whole generation an excuse to look at dirty cops as heroes doing what they needed to do

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

Didn't captain America literally become a fugitive of the state

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 40 points 3 days ago

He threw a tantrum because he didn't want public oversight over his and his friend's superpowers.

It was basically a "You're a loose canon, McBain" cop storyline.

[-] ninjabard@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

You mean the solider who saw what happens when a list of everyone who is considered "other" is ordered and maintained by a government? All because, Tony "I am a gift to God" Stark and Bruce "Couldn't Say No" Banner created a nigh unstoppable police force with no oversight?

IMO, you're not wrong, but Magneto is the better portrayal.

Magneto was right all along about the persecution of mutants. Tony Stark and Captain America disagreed on a "who watches the Watchmen" level in the movies.

Stark thought that heroes had too much power to act without the approval of some higher authority, and the Captain believed that they should be able to act when and where they could without needing permission in order to do the most good. Magneto looked at the number he had tattooed on his wrist as a child in the camps and said, "Never again."

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[-] RoabeArt@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I "love" when a show like Law and Order has a scene where the cops go to arrest somebody who is later proven to be innocent, and it's always at their workplace, or a busy family function, or a restaurant. The cops proceed to loudly accuse the person of the heinous crime right in front of their friends/family/neighbors/coworkers.

Then later on, the actual perp is arrested and no mention is made again of the innocent person they practically eviscerated in public or in front of their loved ones.

It's like these shows exist to subliminally train you to passively accept cops treating you like shit, even if you're innocent.

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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 days ago

"Which propaganda?"
"Exactly what I'm talking about!"

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

Everything is propaganda if it changes your view of something

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Doesn't even need to change your mind.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

That's too much of a generalization. Propaganda is far more specific.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

Pretty much spot on, though that is the exact point of these kinds of shows.

It was part of a wave of shows launched to counter the media perception of incompetence in law enforcement/prosecution. They pushed a bunch of dangerously misleading (or even outright fake) claims such as the reliability and accuracy of forensic evidence which has been later used in actual court cases to imprison innocent people.

As always, Citations needed has done a brilliant job on this kind of stuff that's worth a listen.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3Gmg1b4MSELodxHnHTQoAC

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