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My eye-opener "wtf is going on over there" moment was when someone told me they Ubered to the hospital after they broke their arm cause ambulances are expensive.
thousands of dollars expensive. and they won't tell you the price before you get in.
They likely do not know the price before you get in either. It is going to be a different amount for every person, and varied by insurance. And the companies will make up numbers and try to get as much as they can.
~$16,000 is what it cost me to unwillingly go to a hospital in an ambulance, given an MRI (with my phone, wallet still in my pockets... Thankfully only my head went in I guess) and then released 4 hours later blood still dried on my face and told to see my normal doctor to get the results. Had torn something in my thigh and lost a molar, but neither of those issues were addressed. My buddy picked me up and we were gone.
That was 2016 prices. Young and dumb and made a stupid mistake..
I'm sorry, but I just wanted to say that being charged $16k for emergency medical attention doesn't sound like a mistake on your part.
Yeah I get you, the motorcycle accident trying to avoid a turtle in the road was my accident. I was only going about 15mph when I dodged it but clipped a curb and went over the handlebars. The hit to the head is why an ambulance can take you against your will. If you are "in your faculties" they cannot force you to go.. but if concussed or such they can take you either way because you may be a danger to yourself or others.
and they won’t tell you the price before you get in.
- Won't tell you the price
- Once you get to the hospital, every individual you work with bills you separately
- The hospital make an effort to bill you before you leave, but that's often not the whole price.
- Some of them don't even bill you until you've already paid the initial amount and left. Weeks later you can still get bills for hundreds for stupid crap like someone brought you a regular painkiller in a cup but couldn't be bothered to charge you before you left.
Oopsie, this ambulance is out of network
I started having double vision (and have a history of seizures). I drove myself to the Urgent Care, who told me to drive to the ER, who let a medical student look at me for fifteen minutes, and then sent me home (I drove back).
At least it was only a few hundred dollars wasted, instead of a few thousand with the ambulance.
Vision problems? History of seizures? We must be neighbors because you just described, what I assume, is afflicting nearly all the drivers in my area
The meds I’m on control them (although I’ve basically got no information from doctors on why I had them/what could be done to prevent them in the future - medical care here is not great). I’d rather not drive, but there is no public transport where I live and I need to hold down a job.
Americans realize how deadly corporate greed hits people in health care -> proceeds to elect Trump.
It's Leopard season I suppose.
We're REALLY hoping for a strong leopard season, and much likethe Right, the Left is hoping that the administration hurts the other side more than us, or at the very least both of us enough to make them change their minds. NGL, chances aren't looking good.
Not going to go as far as to advocate Schadenfreude, but when they take a big hit, I do get a little more hopeful.
Trump supporters are gonna get reamed along with the rest of us and spend the whole time convincing themselves that it's a good thing because at least the Democrats are taking it up the ass.
Maybe if the Democrats put forward a decent candidate rather than waiting until the last second to replace Biden with Harris. Even Tulsi Gabbard received more votes than Harris in the 2020 primary.
Trump even won the popular vote. 7 million Americans decided that they'd rather deal with him than to vote against him with Harris.
Think about that. And she ran exclusively on abortion and hardly anything else. She changed her accent more times than she changed topics.
Let's see how the next 4 years will play out, despite the drastic exaggerations from liberals. Trump can't do any worse than Biden's pardoning of his son. Oh wait ...
I seriously wonder if a 30 days earlier event would have changed the outcome of the election.
ROFL.
As if having insurance means you get treated...
Of course they will treat them. How else will they get to bill them $500,000 /s
Anyone that shows up at the ER in America legally has to be accepted and stabilized before discharge. They will be sure to bill you though.
They are legally required to stabilize you, but won’t actually treat you until your method of payment is confirmed!
And have you ever heard of hyperbole? That is whats happening here?
And have you ever heard of hyperbole? That is whats happening here?
The title is “facts are facts”… literally not a fact…
Yup thats the title, have you ever heard of hyperbole?
Hyperbole should be exaggerated beyond what a reasonable person thinks is possible. They shouldn’t mislead. So it’s not a hyperbole if some people might think that people in the US may be outright refused care if they are dying and don’t have insurance. Which is why I commented originally, to clarify that.
it’s not a hyperbole if some people might think that
Congratulations, you just defined hyperbole as non-existing, since for every proposition you can find someone who believes it.
Just accept that you didn’t get the joke and move on.
My issue issue is about how the title 'facts are facts' might mislead, especially on a topic like healthcare, which is already confusing for a lot of people.
Why not ditch the title, and use slides like:
- Slide 1: "Please help me, I'm dying!"
- Slide 2: "Of course, but first can you verify your billing address?"
You think a hospital would ask for insurance from a dying patient?
I think the meme could give that impression to someone unfamiliar with U.S. healthcare, yes.
You really edited 2 of your comments? You know it takes 4 clicks to view them with google time machine?
Ain’t you sad mate?
I don’t know what you are talking about 🤣
if it was allowed to be done legally many American hospitals would absolutely do it.
A USAian not hearing about hyperbole would be too ironic 🤣
Oh boy when did they americanize Pokémon?
This isn't how it actually works in America. They treat you then they bankrupt you.
If you can't pay or your insurance deems you unworthy they halt treatment
First Brock's love of "Jelly Donuts" that look suspiciously like onigiri, now this!
Insurance Company: "Claim denied. individual deductible unmet."
No joke, we spent ~$16k on out of pocket medical expenses in 2024. That was on top of the very pricey employer sponsored insurance plan that I had for most of the year.
Gonna need a lot of insurance yourself asking a question like that.
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