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Elon Musk, co-head of the Department of Government Efficiency under Donald Trump’s advisory team, revised his claim of finding $2 trillion in federal budget cuts to a “best-case outcome” of $1 trillion.

Musk’s earlier target, dismissed as unrealistic by experts, had included the entire discretionary budget of $1.7 trillion.

While Musk and co-lead Vivek Ramaswamy plan to recommend cuts, specifics remain unclear.

Experts warn savings may require targeting mandatory programs like Medicaid, potentially causing hardships.

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

"Savings" they will find:

  • any agencies that monitor, counteract or release reports on Putin and Russian activity

  • agencies that regulate electric vehicle production or road safety

  • Agencies that regulate space flight and aerial pollution

  • The NLRB, OSHA and whichever agencies work to oppose child labor

  • agencies that regulate pharmaceutical pump and dump schemes

  • agencies that regulate emerald mines

  • The CFPB

  • agencies that monitor ethics among government employees

  • agencies that regulate recreational ketamine, ritalin and cocaine use

  • child protective services and agencies that intervene in spousal abuse

  • anecdotes that certify or otherwise support divorce attorneys

  • agencies that originate, maintain and enforce restraining orders

  • agencies that track and publish flight information to enable safer travel between all of the aircraft simultaneously in the sky.

  • agencies that allow for the creation, distribution and use of rape kits (yes, even though there's a backlog. You're very clever)

  • Agencies that keep a database of all people with small, odd shaped penises that no longer get hard....

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

$2 Trillion was more than the discretionary budget of the US. It literally couldn't be done.

Which is why it was a stupid promise and literally anyone with any expertise could tell you that. Which shows you how unserious Musk is about this.

Now that he cut the promise in half and it's still politically impossible but not literally impossible, I reiterate my request...say how you plan to do it. Give us a rough idea what programs are being cut, even the easiest 20%.

By having the conversation about the number alone, we're buying his political premise. The money is not there for no reason, these are democratically popular government programs, that's why they exist. So which popular programs are you getting rid of to save this money?

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

As an Ontarian I feel we are actually more than a few years from America in terms of this bullshit.

You can go back to when Rob Ford won the mayorship of Toronto talking about "stopping the gravy train". He found no gravy.

Fast forward to Doug Ford becoming premier to "stop the gravy train" of which he found no gravy. In fact he unlawfully terminated numerous contracts costing Ontarians even more money.

Short story, people who try to reduce complex economic issues into simple solutions are snake oil salesmen not to be trusted.

Unfortunately in today's media landscape it works.

[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 2 points 1 hour ago

You could probably save a bit by getting rid of the department of government efficiency...

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

No, this is bit Elon Musk being unserious, this is musk just lying his ass off as he does all day, every day, since forever.

When you start looking into his history you'll find a pattern of continuous lies and deceits. Everything great he is known for either actually never happened (self driving cars, anyone? Any day now he'll have them, forover a decade already) or is something that someone else did and he just took the credit.

He won't "find" 2 trillion dollars. He won't find a single trillion dollar either, he won't find much, in the end.

This is just typical Elon Musk behavior as he knows that the musk fans will remember those 2 trillion dollars, they'll forgetbot completely ignore reality

[-] normalexit@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

If they go after Medicaid or Medicare it might bring more attention to how fucked up insurance is for Americans. I don't want them to be empowered to make any suggestions, but this might just bring a tense situation to a head.

[-] GooseFinger@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

That's what we said about COVID and absolutely nothing improved fundamentally.

[-] normalexit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, it is sad. I am slightly more hopeful now after the UHC CEO was killed, and a lot of normal people started talking about their bad experiences with insurance companies. I won't hold my breath for a revolutionary change, but fingers crossed.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

of course you can't you stupid fuck.

fucking troglodyte pretends he's iron man when he can't do basic arithmetic.

[-] Hazor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Come on, give him a break. Those are some big numbers! It's not like just anybody could have figured out that 2 trillion was more than the entire 1.7 trillion discretionary budget. It takes a genius to figure out this stuff, a real genius like Elon "I'm a good dad" Musk, who is a stable genius and definitely was not an illegal immigrant at any point.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Likely because he refuses to put his own stuff under that microscope

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 20 points 8 hours ago

Can we take a moment to acknowledge a few billionaires made their own government department, and people are just rolling with it?

They're a random private company. Why are we just letting that fact slide???

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Because the media is owned by that same billionaire class

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Man who lies endlessly caught lying again. More at 7.

[-] chuck@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 hours ago

Seriously what an unexpected outcome....

The one trillion difference needs to be paid back from his salary and a potential salary claw back for this underperformance.

[-] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 3 points 9 hours ago

I think he isn't getting a salary, apart from whatever gains he reaps by removing roadblocks for his companies.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Elon is such a dumbass.

Edit: I'm sorry, *President Elon is such a dumbass.

[-] digger@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

People made a big deal about Michelle Obama missing Jimmy Carter's funeral. Why wasn't President Elon there? Hmmm. Why isn't that being covered?

[-] Nunar@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I want to join truth social just to call out "president Elon"

[-] Nunar@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

And Trump won't bring down grocery prices. I really wish Americans were smarter. It's going to be a rough ride. At least I'm not going to have to subscribe to the NYT to see the obituary that I want to.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 4 points 11 hours ago

It’ll be 2 million, and way less than the amount the DOGE department manages to embezzle itself.

[-] Hazor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, the only real "cuts" will be to regulatory agencies that get in the way of his business plans.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago

Wherever he cut, you can safely assume it will only hit the people at the bottom, not those at the top.

[-] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 3 points 9 hours ago

It will hit whatever annoys him, his companies and that extends to everybody who kisses his ring sufficiently.

But yes, social and worker protections probably match that criteria.

[-] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 15 hours ago

Whatever supports his companies

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago

i’m actually kind of shocked he admitted this. isn’t his usual strategy to promise super unrealistic things, not deliver, and then make the same promise the next year?

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Indeed, but I bet he isn't used to hide things in the public. This is a federal budget, not yet another of his corporations. I bet he knows the very best accountants but that's just different.

[-] 5in1k@lemm.ee 24 points 22 hours ago

If he cuts anything it’ll be support for middle class and poor people and itll be jack shit, it will fuck everything up and it will be touted by clowns as a success.

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 171 points 1 day ago

Anyone who actually believed they would find $2 trillion was an idiot, the rest of us knew they'd just cut the things they hate, bump the subsidies that favor them and their friends, and call it a day.

[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

I expect them to privatize and then somehow claim they cut the budget because they are paying a private company instead of running whole departments themselves (govt)

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

Your comment will age poorly when Trump’s tarrifs lead to a collapsing economy and he prints money like mad to solve it, resulting in hyper-inflation letting President Musk keep his election promise.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago

The funny thing is....it's not like their voters would care if they lied. They could literally say "We cut the budget by $17 trillion by making sure the trans kids don't get surgeries!" And their voters would fucking cheer.

They wouldn't look deep enough to actually care what they cut.

So the question is why even make this announcement? I'm guessing it's a distraction from something else.

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[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 day ago

Remember when he landed people on Mars in 2022?

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 day ago

Remember when Tesla released fully autonomous self driving cars?

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 115 points 1 day ago

This doesn't look good for Elon. Lucky for him that he's the president.

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[-] fannymcslap@lemmy.world 84 points 1 day ago

Gasp. Lying cunt lied cuntily.

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[-] shininghero@pawb.social 24 points 1 day ago

Oh please, you're not even going to get $100 billion without stepping on some toes in the Military-Industrial complex, and that's going to make you some lifelong political enemies.

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It's all going to be healthcare / social safety nets, and it's going to be dwarfed by the tax cuts Trump gives people.

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

I'm shocked, SHOCKED by this revelation!

[-] Whateley@lemm.ee 14 points 23 hours ago

Those two clowns couldn't find their own asses in a dark room with both hands and a flashlight.

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