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Not a good look for Mastodon - what can be done to automate the removal of CSAM?

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[-] NuclearArmWrestling@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I know that people like to dump on Cloudflare, but it's incredibly easy to enable a built-in CSAM scanner with CloudFlare.

On that note, I'd like to see built-in moderation tools using something like PDQ and TMK+PDQF and a shared hashtable of CSAM and other material that may be outlawed or desirable to filter out in different regions (e.g. terrorist content, Nazi content in Germany, etc.)

[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Wait, why do people like to dump on CloudFlare? I must be out of the loop.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute -1 points 1 year ago

People are wary about how internet got more and more centralized behind cloudlare. If you're ever getting caught in cloudlare's captcha hell because they flag your IP as suspicious, you'll get wary too because you suddenly realized how big cloudlare now when half of the internet suddenly ask you to solve cloudlare captcha.

[-] AlecSadler@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Got it. Damn. I just switched some services to CloudFlare DNS today...now I guess I'll change them back.

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Are you so easily swayed by a single post from a rando internet person?

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute -1 points 1 year ago

I don't want much, I just want deletion to be propagated reliably across the fediverse. If someone got banned for CSAM and their contents purged, I want those action propagated across all federated instances. I can't even delete my comment reliably here on Lemmy since many instances doesn't seem to get the deletion requests.

[-] Reddit_was_fun@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The article points out that the strength of the Fediverse is also it’s downside. Federated moderation makes it challenging to consistently moderate CSAM.

We have seen it even here with the challenges of Lemmynsfw. In fact they have taken a stance that CSAM like images with of age models made to look underage is fine as long as there is some dodgy ‘age verification’

The idea is that abusive instances would get defederated, but I think we are going to find that inadequate to keep up without some sort of centralized reporting escalation and ai auto screening.

[-] rodneylives@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

The problem with screening by AI is there's going to be false positives, and it's going to be extremely challenging and frustrating to fight them. Last month I got a letter for a speeding infraction that was automated: it was generated by a camera, the plate read in by OCR, the letter I received (from "Seat Pleasant, Maryland," lol) was supposedly signed off by a human police officer, but the image was so blurry that the plate was practically unreadable. Which is what happened: it got one of the letters wrong, and I got a speeding ticket from a town I've never been to, had never even heard of before I got that letter. And the letter was full of helpful ways to pay for and dispense with the ticket, but to challenge it I had to do it it writing, there was no email address anywhere in the letter. I had to go to their website and sift through dozens of pages to find one that had any chance of being able to do something about it, and I made a couple of false steps along the way. THEN, after calling them up and explaining the situation, they apologized and said they'd dismiss the charge--which they failed to do, I got another letter about it just TODAY saying a late fee had now been tacked on.

And this was mere OCR, which has been in use for multiple decades and is fairly stable now. This pleasant process is coming to anything involving AI as a judging mechanism.

[-] rticks@universeodon.com -1 points 1 year ago

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